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Posted: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 - 10:12 PM UTC
Hi all

Look what Eduard have lined up for a May release!



All the best

Rowan
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Posted: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 - 11:01 PM UTC
..there's only one 't' in 'roter' ....and if there are two kits in the box then it becomes 'Die rote Flieger'...

looks good...but get the details right Eduard...!!

no doubt a quick release to tie in with the film ..which looks great by the way....trailer is here

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_2KFe2fdMY
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Posted: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 - 11:41 PM UTC
[quote]..there's only one 't' in 'roter' ....and if there are two kits in the box then it becomes 'Die rote Flieger'...

Hi Neil

Even with my half-remembered high school German, I was wary of copying their spelling for the News item!

All the best

Rowan
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Posted: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 - 01:33 AM UTC
About time that we get another 48th Dr.I one with real looking struts.
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Posted: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 - 08:08 AM UTC
And the dog? Did they do a minature of Moritz?
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Posted: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 - 09:16 AM UTC
I'm surprised about the 2 model kit I figured they would have shot the Fokker out by itself I'll get one just to have the Dr.I. I have 15 or 20 trosses already.
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Posted: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 - 12:43 PM UTC
It will be interesting to see what markings are included with the kit. Will there be markings for each aircraft to represent either brother, which would mean decals for 4 different machines?
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Posted: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 - 11:18 PM UTC
OK, a qualified answer on the box top spelling (My wife is German).

If you are talking about one red flyer;
"Der Rote Flieger"

If you are talking about two or more;
"Die Roten Flieger"

And if they are actually flying;
"Die Roten Flieger fliegen"

I have great difficulty with German my self (I have half heartedly been trying to learn since my wife and I first met) ... nobody can tell me why a spoon loses its gender if you pick it up and give it to someone.

Cheers,

Hugh
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Posted: Friday, May 02, 2008 - 07:30 PM UTC
Yes they did the dog too!

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Posted: Friday, May 02, 2008 - 07:32 PM UTC
Here is what you get for 74.95 USD.
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Posted: Friday, May 02, 2008 - 07:37 PM UTC
Here are the posted imges of the box contents.
complete kits -
1x Albatros D.V & 1x Fokker Dr.I
4 sheets of photo-etch
3 decal sheets for 10 marking variants
2 sheets of the canopy mask
Printed portraits of Richthofen brothers
High quality resin figures of Richthofen brothers and their dog
1/3 scale Pour le Mérite pin
http://www.eduard.cz/products/card.php?id_product=5840

JackFlash
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Posted: Friday, May 02, 2008 - 07:49 PM UTC
Kit seems slapped together here.











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Posted: Sunday, May 04, 2008 - 05:36 AM UTC
Was this build done by Eduard ? It does seem that it was slapped together in a hurry ! Nice to finally see some pic's of what the contents of the box are ! My order for one was placed two weeks ago at the hobby shop . can hardly wait !
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Posted: Sunday, May 04, 2008 - 06:38 AM UTC
Greetings Terri;

All previous images are from the eduard website.

http://www.eduard.cz

Here is some of the PE. Interesting the chin plates represent the early F. I & the production Dr.I types.


One fellow says;

" . . .the lower panels were nearly identical between the F.I and Dr.I. The nonexistent cowl lip makes the difference on the PE model panels except hole location and there were in actuality no holes for struts. Have to ask Gary if he has seen anything different.

Both F.I and Dr.I opening maintenance panels had a full length piano hinge and square edges on the front and rounded corners on the rear to keep them from bending and possibly to prevent the mechanics from sticking themselves with sharp corners. The shape of the forward edge of the overall removable panels is wrong, too. There were two slots in front of the removable lower panel to go around the landing gear struts and the front of the panel fit underneath the bent back aluminum of the firewall. Otherwise you could not remove the lower panel without removing the landing gear. The lower panel had to be removed to remove the lower wing, and obviously nobody wanted to remove the landing gear for transportation.

The cowl also had nothing to do with the lower panel since the lower panel fit underneath another panel edge. There was no lip on the cowl, just the forward cowl bevel continued and curved all the way to the bottom of the cowl and a round ended slot was cut in that extended panel, through which the engine cylinders rotated. Also, there were no Fokker fasteners on the forward edge of the hinged maintenance panel. They were about 2/3s of the way back.. . ."

As has been pointed out the need to open up the forward landing gear holes to represent scallops rather than enclosures. (It is in my current draft of the review of this kit as are some other points.) Eduard did this of course with simplicity in mind rather than accuracy. A grinding wheel in a motor tool fixes this as well. This chin pan by the way will almost garauntee correct placement of the landing gear legs.

Representing the piano wire hinge is very easy. Simply take a section of brass wire and under the blade of a #11 Xacto knife roll the wire on a flat surface. This scribes the wire to look like the hinge breaks. Then paint and stain as normal for this type kit.

The PE chin of the cowl for the F.I is intended to be blended with the plastic cowl. Just a bit of careful carving is in order.

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Posted: Sunday, May 04, 2008 - 12:27 PM UTC
Well then I'm very disappointed with Eduard on their mock up model . They could have taking the time with this . Thanks for sharing the info on the landing gear and panels , I just learn't something new about this wonderful little aircraft .
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Posted: Sunday, May 11, 2008 - 09:44 PM UTC
More from Eduard on the subject.



Der rote Flieger (Fok.DrI+Albat.D.V.)


Furthermore, there will also be a small run of a more specialized boxing. A hundred pieces will be complimented by a full sized Pour le Merite, and the box itself will be red. This edition will not be released to stores, and will only be available through our internet shop. Those who would be interested in this edition shouldn’t waiver too long, there will really not be many available. When we introduced this concept in Mosonmagyarovár, interest that it sparked exceeded our expectations. The kit, with catalog number 1136X, will be available from our webstore starting May 15, 2008.
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Posted: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 - 08:21 PM UTC
I pre ordered an example, that's a "regular" one, not the specialized boxing.

Cheers, Nico
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Posted: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 - 06:34 AM UTC

I wonder how long before a non combo basic kit hits the market?


CWatson
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Posted: Thursday, May 15, 2008 - 02:46 PM UTC
Greetings all; Here is the special Red Flyer Box set 1136X.


It contains everything the original does including the Albatros D.V PLUS!

1. Another 1/48 Fokker Dr.I kit and PE.

2. A full sized Faux Blue Max with war ribbon This edition seems better than their royal kit offering of the Faux Blue Max.(Wow!)


3. Red Box holds everything.

So here is the complete contents list for kit 1136X Price: $130.00 USD

3 complete kits -
1x Albatros D.V & 2x Fokker Dr.I

4 sheets of photo-etch
2 decal sheets for 10 marking variants
2 sheets of the canopy mask
Printed portraits of Richthofen brothers
High quality resin figures of Richthofen brothers and their dog
1/3 scale Pour le Mérite pin
1/1 scale Pour le Mérite badge replica with ribbon


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Posted: Thursday, May 15, 2008 - 03:05 PM UTC
Decals are the same as the original issue in kit #1136. At least they got the captions right this time.
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Posted: Thursday, May 15, 2008 - 09:32 PM UTC
Guess what gentle folk. Postage is not free. Here is what the website says on the 1136X kit.

"Info about order
cat.# 1136X
name Der rote Flieger SPECIAL
$ per unit 130.00
units 1
price 130.00

Total in shopping cart 1 = $ 130.00


[b]Total in shopping cart $ 130.00
Shipping costs $ 29.00
Total price: $ 159.00


See information please:
Please, contact us directly on department@eduard.com in case you:

A. wont receive an email confirmation about the receipt of your order within 3 working days
B. should have any problems login in into our website or any problems regarding your order
C. find mistakes or discrepancies in any of our products
D. find a part missing from our product
It is not sufficient just to mention your problem on the Eduard´s website duscussion.

Contact us directly and you can be sure your problem will be taken care of as soon as possible.

Your shipping costs:
Europe - 29 USD
North America - 29 USD
South America - 39 USD
other countries - 39 USD

Argentina - 47 USD
New Zealand - 47 USD
Thailand - 29 USD

Free postage isn't applied."

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Posted: Thursday, May 15, 2008 - 10:04 PM UTC
Hi Stephen!

Here in Europe it is even worse, we have to add the taxes. This means 19% more! The exact price is 189.21 USD for us!!!

I've ordered the limited kit nonetheless... I must be crazy!

Jean-Luc
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Posted: Thursday, May 15, 2008 - 10:42 PM UTC
You are insane!!!!!

I think 75 for two kits is already pretty much but 190 for three is just ridiculous.

watch out for the guys with the strait jacket.



Steffen
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Posted: Friday, May 16, 2008 - 01:17 AM UTC

Quoted Text

Hi Stephen!. . .I've ordered the limited kit nonetheless... I must be crazy!
Jean-Luc



Move over mon ami I ordered one also.
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Posted: Friday, May 16, 2008 - 03:09 AM UTC
I will wait for the weekend version........ and I will keep my Dragon's Fokker Dr.I kits.