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Aircraft Trivia Quiz 2 (Join In)
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Posted: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 - 03:14 PM GMT+7
Bump
BumpBump
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Posted: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 - 08:14 AM GMT+7
bump!
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Posted: Wednesday, January 31, 2018 - 03:18 AM GMT+7
I knew that question wouldn't last long
You have the conn, Mr Cadenhead.
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Posted: Tuesday, January 30, 2018 - 12:21 PM GMT+7
First plane with retractable landing gear?
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Posted: Tuesday, January 30, 2018 - 09:42 AM GMT+7
The Martin Kitten is famous for being almost entirely unable to fly, but it's also famous for something else. What is it?
pigsty
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Posted: Tuesday, January 30, 2018 - 08:42 AM GMT+7
Yes indeed, the Starship. Clearly no Rimmer Bros out there buying up old wheels and panels to flog at car boot sales.

Jessie, you have control, over.
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Posted: Monday, January 29, 2018 - 09:41 AM GMT+7
Beechcraft Starship. They only made about 53, which Beech considered too small a fleet to economically support, so they've been buying them back and burning them.
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Posted: Monday, January 29, 2018 - 09:41 AM GMT+7
Hi Sean

Doesn't every manufacturer systematically "destroy" it's own aircraft in stress tests etc?

All the best

Rowan
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Posted: Monday, January 29, 2018 - 09:24 AM GMT+7
My Google has abandoned me, I have searched several times with a few search options but not even a vague lead to an answer here. Time to try some obtuse search patterns

Cheers, D
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Posted: Monday, January 29, 2018 - 08:22 AM GMT+7
Not target drones, no. I'm thinking of a specific model of aircraft, and its destruction isn't part of the original reason for building it.
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Posted: Sunday, January 28, 2018 - 09:28 AM GMT+7
Target drones?
pigsty
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Posted: Sunday, January 28, 2018 - 08:39 AM GMT+7
Anyone?
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Posted: Monday, January 22, 2018 - 08:26 AM GMT+7
All gone very quiet so I'll throw one in.

What aircraft type is being systematically destroyed by its manufacturer? Extra points for explaining why.
2002hummer
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Posted: Monday, January 22, 2018 - 04:16 AM GMT+7
Bumpity Bump Bump Bump Bump
Kevlar06
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Posted: Sunday, January 14, 2018 - 01:28 PM GMT+7
Yeah-- we gotta keep it going-- Bump over to Mark?
VR, Russ
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Posted: Sunday, January 14, 2018 - 07:36 AM GMT+7
If it helps, I'm definitely interested in this thread. Especially if a new question should turn up!
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Posted: Friday, January 05, 2018 - 12:12 PM GMT+7
Thanks Russ, I lived, still do, close to Selfridge air base here in the Detroit area. In the sixties the 94th FIS was stationed there and then in the mid to late seventies the 171st FIS of the Mich ANG flew some of the most beautifully marked 106's in the inventory. Of course I may be a little biased on that point. Even after the the 171st transitioned to F-4D's ( another beautifully marked aircraft) and then to F-16's the low flying aircraft signs around the base still featured the 106 silhouette. I believe there was another squadron based there also, Detroit was considered a prime target back in those days.
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Posted: Friday, January 05, 2018 - 05:45 AM GMT+7
Glad you all enjoyed that multi-part question, I had feared the thread was winding down but the detailed responses tell me I was wrong-- hopefully we can keep them going! Mark-- I did have a slight advantage when it comes to the F-106, since I don't live to far from the original record breaker of a sort-- it was SN 56-0459 flown by Maj. Joe Rogers in the 1959 record attempt, but it developed some avionics problems and was replaced. It now sits in the Air Park at McChord Field in Washington State, adorned in 318 FIS markings. Joe Rogers record of 1,525 MPH was exceeded by civilian test pilot Charles Meyers in a different F106 shortly thereafter at 1,544 MPH, which is about Mach 2.4, not bad for a stock fighter. The top speed of the F106 was never really determined for sure, but it was an incredible airplane-- the thing could go almost straight up To 30,000 feet in less than 30 seconds-- and it could be vectored to a target and its weapons fired from ground control (when everything worked right). Here's a link to an article I wrote about the Air Park at McChord, with some photos of the F102 and F106-- my second and third favorite jets-- after the F104.
http://www.largescaleplanes.com/articles/article.php?aid=3151
VR, Russ
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Posted: Friday, January 05, 2018 - 04:55 AM GMT+7
I'll do the best I can, but I'll have to do a little research. I got lucky on this one, I grew up close to a base that had an f-106 squadron stationed on it, it was always one of my favorite planes along with the B-58.The Convair deltas are one of the few aviation subjects I have some knowledge about. What i used to like about the six was at takeoff the pilot would select full afterburner and the engine would wind down, almost like the pilot killed the throttle, before the burner lit off with a loud bang and off she went. I will see what i can come up with but in the mean time if anyone else has a question they want to pose, feel free.
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Posted: Friday, January 05, 2018 - 02:14 AM GMT+7
Great question Russ, had me stumped and trolling the Google machine for quite a while.

Looking forward to what brain-teaser Mark can come up with!

Cheers, D
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Posted: Thursday, January 04, 2018 - 04:22 PM GMT+7
Mark-- you've got it. The "family" are the four Convair deltas. The mentioned missile/launch vehicle is the Convair Atlas-- which culminated in the Atlas-Centuar program just a few years ago. The Douglas F4D Skyray was the only other operational (production) US delta jet, and held the speed record for a carrier based aircraft for a short while. The four Convair delta designs stemmed from Lippish's research, and the ME 163 was the German design which first saw operational use (and holds the WWII aircraft speed record), although it was not a pure "delta" aircraft, having more swept wings. The design features of course being the delta wings and absence of "tail" stabilizers. Britain and France of course had deltas-- the Vulcan and Mirage are the most noteworthy for the same time period. In 1959 the F-106 broke the speed record for an operational (production) single seat, single engine aircraft (the Russians beat it with the YE-152, but that was a prototype test aircraft similar to the Mig-21). The F-106 and F-102 were designed solely as interceptors, (not all-purpose fighters). The later F-106 could be controlled via ground control, and as such it was the first single seat interceptor to be controlled from the ground in supersonic flight when it traveled from Palmdale CA to Jacksonville Florida in 3.5 hours, with the pilot in control for a total of five minutes during landing and take off only. Convair was taken over by General Dynamics, McDonnell-Douglas, and finally Lockheed. Just to correct the record, several F-102's were lost in combat during the Vietnam War (at least one in air-to-air combat, and two others to ground fire). During the Greek-Turkish Cyprus conflict, both the Greeks and Turks flew and probably lost F102s in air-to-air combat(but both countries deny any losses). For a while in 1960, Convair had the three fastest aircraft types in the world-- the F-106, the B-58, and the Convair 880 civilian airliner. OK-- over to you now!
VR, Russ
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Posted: Thursday, January 04, 2018 - 02:07 PM GMT+7
I forgot to mention the bomber would be the B-24, designed and built by Consolidated Aircraft which merged with Vultee to become Convair. Now owned by Boeing.
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Posted: Thursday, January 04, 2018 - 01:04 PM GMT+7
Here is my guess. The company is Convair. The aircraft are the F-102 Delta Dagger, F-106 Delta Dart, F2Y Sea Dart, and the B-58 Hustler. All four used delta wings and elevons. The F-106 still holds the speed record for (production) single engine fighters, the B-58 holds the speed record for LA to New York. The F-102 was deployed to Vietnam for a time but probably never saw combat except for some stories of pilots picking up campfires under the jungle canopy with their IR sensor and shooting Falcons at them. I'm a bit stumped by the name of the Douglas aircraft, the only one I can think of is the Skyray.
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Posted: Thursday, January 04, 2018 - 11:17 AM GMT+7
Folks-- I got to thinking about the "record holder" part of the question, and realized I wasn't to clear about it-- there are actually two different types of records involved, one was a flight between two cities, (the one I'm thinking about) the other was a record which has yet to be passed on a course (another clue for you) by the same type of operational aircraft in its specific category. Another hint for you is the only aircraft to exceed the record in a similar category was Russian, but that aircraft was a test aircraft which never flew operationally. Somebody ought to get it now!
VR, Russ
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Posted: Thursday, January 04, 2018 - 07:09 AM GMT+7
Richard-- it's nice to know this thread is still alive! I thought for a while I was the only US guy interested- what with Karl, Darrell and Jessie speaking the Queen's English and all (well, not really for our two fellow N. Americans!) I guess we easily distracted colonials haven't fully given up yet on this thread! The answer to your question is---you are going down the right track, but there's still more to the question (but it's enough to likely lead to the answers). In fact, since I added bonus points for the test aircraft and the Douglas contemporary (in an attempt to steer folks the right way), it's only fair to include bonus points for the manufacturer's vehicle that kept giving long after the manufacturer was broken up! With this particular manufacturer there are so many "firsts", that it's a great pick for questions.
VR, Russ