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DML Bison II 15cm s.IG 33
c5flies
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Posted: Sunday, November 06, 2011 - 10:43 AM UTC
Rick Cooper provides an in-box review of the new Bison II 15cm s.IG 33 from Dragon.

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Thanks!
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Posted: Sunday, November 06, 2011 - 12:04 PM UTC
Thank you for the review and the kind words Rick, and for what it is worth I cannot see a difference colour wise in the tracklinks in the picture either
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Posted: Sunday, November 06, 2011 - 12:25 PM UTC
I have read a number of times that 12 Bison II's were built - and that all 12 were sent to Africa and then lost there.

If that was the case how did one of these get to the Kubinka museum in Russia, where it now resides?
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Posted: Sunday, November 06, 2011 - 01:23 PM UTC
Good review!


~ Jeff
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Posted: Sunday, November 06, 2011 - 03:20 PM UTC
Dave,

Everything I have read says the same thing, 12 built, 12 destroyed in NA. I have never seen a picture of one from Kubinka, do you have one?

Rick
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Posted: Monday, November 07, 2011 - 04:34 AM UTC
Sorry, I can't find my copy of the picture.

I do remember the Bison was painted "dark yellow" but I didn't know if this was supposed to be Afrika Korps or post 1943 European. It clearly looked repainted the way so many museum exhibits do and I was struck by the fact that so rare a vehicle seemed to have gone unnoticed.
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Posted: Tuesday, November 08, 2011 - 03:47 PM UTC
Have just read a report that one refurbished Bison was pressed into Egytian military service for the 1948 war with Israel. I wonder, just in passing, if this was the Soviet connection?
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Posted: Tuesday, November 08, 2011 - 04:02 PM UTC
Thank you for the well written review Rick. I really like that they came through with the rifling in the metal barrel, most excellent. I agree with you and Darren about the tracks, they look identical in color to me as well. I hope they change this or it could be a tad bit confusing to more than a few modellers. I am looking forward to this kit for certain.
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Posted: Saturday, November 12, 2011 - 11:37 AM UTC
Dave,
That might just be the answer to the question. It certainly makes a logical chain of events, captured war stocks left behind, pulled out and used by Egypt, passed on to the Soviets. Someone, somewhere must have a picture of the beast. Sooner or later it will turn up!
Rick
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Posted: Monday, November 21, 2011 - 12:40 AM UTC
I've read somewhere that the sprocket wouldn't fit the tracks (DML added one teeth or something of this kind). Can you confirm?

spit
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Posted: Saturday, March 03, 2012 - 11:09 AM UTC
Pawel, that's true. I am building this kit now and the tracks do not fit the sprocket!!! So, one should consider buing aftermarket tracks or find old dragon 25-teeth sprockets.
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Posted: Saturday, March 03, 2012 - 11:30 AM UTC
You might get same problem with AM tracks,. I'm no expert on Pnz II but maybe a set of Pnz II sprocket will work? Geraint
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Posted: Saturday, March 03, 2012 - 01:26 PM UTC
Just found another issue - there are parts only for 1 radio rack, but you need to build two! Parts RD4 and RD8 are present only in 1 copy each.