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Ostfront v Pacific Theater
pseudorealityx
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Posted: Thursday, September 27, 2012 - 06:19 AM UTC

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What you will find is that the Ostfront had foul weather for a little more than one season, possibly stretched to two. In the Pacific, the weather was always a pressure cooker.



This is nonsense Matt. Most of the these areas in the pacific endure seasonal monsoon seasons, but the dry seasons are warm, but not terrible.

Here's the average temperatures on Iwo Jima.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iwo_Jima#Geographic_features

Here's the average temperature on Singapore.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Singapore#Geography

Here's the climate in Burma.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Climate_of_Burma#Climate

Lots of people seem to think Hawaii (Pearl Harbor) has a pretty nice climate too. They go on vacations there and stuff.


You are correct. I was basing my observation mainly on Indochina, which has nice weather in some parts.




We didn't fight in IndoChina. Japan still held Indochina at the end of the war. What are you talking about Matt?


The Allies were in IndoChina, specifically the Commonwealth, the French and the US.
http://ww2db.com/battle_spec.php?battle_id=44



Matt, you're being ridiculous. Read your own link. That "campaign" was 3 days long from the Japanese showing up to end of the fighting. There were ZERO US or British troops. And French IndoChina was already Vichy controlled...

The mention of Commonwealth troops are those in Burma, and the mention of US troops are those in the Philippines.

Again... what are you talking about?





http://www.ww2f.com/cbi-theater/26273-japanese-invasion-french-indochina.html
http://www.ebay.com/itm/WWII-Silk-Escape-Map-Indochina-Siam-/160586568886
http://www.history.army.mil/brochures/burma42/burma42.htm
http://www.worldwar2database.com/html/burma.htm
http://www.ibiblio.org/hyperwar/USA/USA-C-Burma45/index.html
http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/worldwars/wwtwo/burma_campaign_01.shtml
http://www.discoveryindochina.com/maps/index.html



The first link says the exact same thing your previous link said... 3 days of 'campaign'. The second link is a dead ebay link. The others talk about Burma. Indochina is NOT the same as Burma.


Are you saying that Burma was worse than the Eastern front?

Are you saying that the Philippines were worse than the Eastern front? Other islands?

Which part of the Eastern front? It was like ~800 miles long.
retiredyank
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Arkansas, United States
Joined: June 29, 2009
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Posted: Thursday, September 27, 2012 - 08:04 AM UTC

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What you will find is that the Ostfront had foul weather for a little more than one season, possibly stretched to two. In the Pacific, the weather was always a pressure cooker.



This is nonsense Matt. Most of the these areas in the pacific endure seasonal monsoon seasons, but the dry seasons are warm, but not terrible.

Here's the average temperatures on Iwo Jima.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iwo_Jima#Geographic_features

Here's the average temperature on Singapore.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Singapore#Geography

Here's the climate in Burma.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Climate_of_Burma#Climate

Lots of people seem to think Hawaii (Pearl Harbor) has a pretty nice climate too. They go on vacations there and stuff.


You are correct. I was basing my observation mainly on Indochina, which has nice weather in some parts.




We didn't fight in IndoChina. Japan still held Indochina at the end of the war. What are you talking about Matt?


The Allies were in IndoChina, specifically the Commonwealth, the French and the US.
http://ww2db.com/battle_spec.php?battle_id=44



Matt, you're being ridiculous. Read your own link. That "campaign" was 3 days long from the Japanese showing up to end of the fighting. There were ZERO US or British troops. And French IndoChina was already Vichy controlled...

The mention of Commonwealth troops are those in Burma, and the mention of US troops are those in the Philippines.

Again... what are you talking about?





http://www.ww2f.com/cbi-theater/26273-japanese-invasion-french-indochina.html
http://www.ebay.com/itm/WWII-Silk-Escape-Map-Indochina-Siam-/160586568886
http://www.history.army.mil/brochures/burma42/burma42.htm
http://www.worldwar2database.com/html/burma.htm
http://www.ibiblio.org/hyperwar/USA/USA-C-Burma45/index.html
http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/worldwars/wwtwo/burma_campaign_01.shtml
http://www.discoveryindochina.com/maps/index.html



The first link says the exact same thing your previous link said... 3 days of 'campaign'. The second link is a dead ebay link. The others talk about Burma. Indochina is NOT the same as Burma.


Are you saying that Burma was worse than the Eastern front?

Are you saying that the Philippines were worse than the Eastern front? Other islands?

Which part of the Eastern front? It was like ~800 miles long.


Burma IS part of Indochina. You may be thinking of French Indochina that included Vietnam and Cambodia. And, yes, the conditions would have been horrible on troops.
retiredyank
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Arkansas, United States
Joined: June 29, 2009
KitMaker: 11,610 posts
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Posted: Thursday, September 27, 2012 - 08:20 AM UTC

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What you will find is that the Ostfront had foul weather for a little more than one season, possibly stretched to two. In the Pacific, the weather was always a pressure cooker.



This is nonsense Matt. Most of the these areas in the pacific endure seasonal monsoon seasons, but the dry seasons are warm, but not terrible.

Here's the average temperatures on Iwo Jima.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iwo_Jima#Geographic_features

Here's the average temperature on Singapore.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Singapore#Geography

Here's the climate in Burma.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Climate_of_Burma#Climate

Lots of people seem to think Hawaii (Pearl Harbor) has a pretty nice climate too. They go on vacations there and stuff.


You are correct. I was basing my observation mainly on Indochina, which has nice weather in some parts.


Perhaps you misunderstood. I meant if the conditions were those of indochina, the Pacific Theater would have been far worse.
pseudorealityx
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Georgia, United States
Joined: January 31, 2010
KitMaker: 2,174 posts
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Posted: Thursday, September 27, 2012 - 02:42 PM UTC

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What you will find is that the Ostfront had foul weather for a little more than one season, possibly stretched to two. In the Pacific, the weather was always a pressure cooker.



This is nonsense Matt. Most of the these areas in the pacific endure seasonal monsoon seasons, but the dry seasons are warm, but not terrible.

Here's the average temperatures on Iwo Jima.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iwo_Jima#Geographic_features

Here's the average temperature on Singapore.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Singapore#Geography

Here's the climate in Burma.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Climate_of_Burma#Climate

Lots of people seem to think Hawaii (Pearl Harbor) has a pretty nice climate too. They go on vacations there and stuff.


You are correct. I was basing my observation mainly on Indochina, which has nice weather in some parts.




We didn't fight in IndoChina. Japan still held Indochina at the end of the war. What are you talking about Matt?


The Allies were in IndoChina, specifically the Commonwealth, the French and the US.
http://ww2db.com/battle_spec.php?battle_id=44



Matt, you're being ridiculous. Read your own link. That "campaign" was 3 days long from the Japanese showing up to end of the fighting. There were ZERO US or British troops. And French IndoChina was already Vichy controlled...

The mention of Commonwealth troops are those in Burma, and the mention of US troops are those in the Philippines.

Again... what are you talking about?





http://www.ww2f.com/cbi-theater/26273-japanese-invasion-french-indochina.html
http://www.ebay.com/itm/WWII-Silk-Escape-Map-Indochina-Siam-/160586568886
http://www.history.army.mil/brochures/burma42/burma42.htm
http://www.worldwar2database.com/html/burma.htm
http://www.ibiblio.org/hyperwar/USA/USA-C-Burma45/index.html
http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/worldwars/wwtwo/burma_campaign_01.shtml
http://www.discoveryindochina.com/maps/index.html



The first link says the exact same thing your previous link said... 3 days of 'campaign'. The second link is a dead ebay link. The others talk about Burma. Indochina is NOT the same as Burma.


Are you saying that Burma was worse than the Eastern front?

Are you saying that the Philippines were worse than the Eastern front? Other islands?

Which part of the Eastern front? It was like ~800 miles long.


Burma IS part of Indochina. You may be thinking of French Indochina that included Vietnam and Cambodia. And, yes, the conditions would have been horrible on troops.



Of course I'm referring to "French Indochina". During the period 1939 to 1945, 'Indochina" = "French Indochina". We aren't using either prior of postwar borders, because we are referring to WWII.

Burma was completely separate during the war years. That's why you find links for "Indochina campaign" and it talks about the geography of modern day Vietnam, Laos, and Cambodia. If you read about the "Burma campaign", it talks about present day Myanmar. The US and Commonwealth forces didn't really have an interest in going beyond the Burma borders into French Indochina. They were far more concerned about keeping the supply routes to China open.