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1/48 B-17F Build - 303rd BGs Luscious Lady
Redhand
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Posted: Monday, April 10, 2017 - 08:14 AM UTC
Believe me I'm as interested in the movie getting finished as you are. I should have a new post up very soon.
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Posted: Monday, April 10, 2017 - 07:01 AM UTC
Anything new since April, Brian? I mean 46 pages of posts later and you left me hanging... LOL!

Kind of like watching The Maltese Falcon and having the cable go out in the last 5 minutes!
Dragon164
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Posted: Saturday, March 18, 2017 - 08:12 AM UTC
Brian,
Great job!
That gives me an idea! I have some crystal clear resin that has a short life span once open I have been lining things up to cast before I start the B-17 windscreen has just been added to the list.

Cheers Rob.
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Posted: Thursday, March 16, 2017 - 03:09 AM UTC

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Nice going ! A subtle detail that will add to the overall look.



I think so too Paul, plus it will give a clear look inside the cockpit at the instrument panel etc. So I'm very pleased with it.
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Posted: Thursday, March 16, 2017 - 02:29 AM UTC
Nice going ! A subtle detail that will add to the overall look.
GazzaS
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Posted: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 - 11:02 AM UTC
Wow, Brian! Those cutouts are spectacular. Kudos to your friend.

Gaz
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Posted: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 - 10:41 AM UTC

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Brian -

Nice work ! How did he do it - drill corners and saw out with jewelers saw ?

Inquiring minds want to know - Richard



I'll ask. There is some filing still needed but this is #1 for a first cut. I do think it's a first with this kit, at least as published on the intertoobz.
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Posted: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 - 10:24 AM UTC
Brian -

Nice work ! How did he do it - drill corners and saw out with jewelers saw ?

Inquiring minds want to know - Richard
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Posted: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 - 09:44 AM UTC

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My North Carolina friend is taking another "cut" at cutting out the pilot and copilot's windows so that we can position them open, and that has also held things up.



"Held up" did I say? Not anymore. Check out the spectacular work cutting out the pilot and copilot's forward windows so that they can be positioned opened!





I took a try at this myself with another part and it was, like, a total failure. My friend says he got this done in about 10 minutes. Talk about a skill set!

This certainly boosts my enthusiasm for getting this tedious fuselage work done so that I can start on other things like the ball turret and nose glass, which are no less tedious. But I've chosen my poison! This is progress.

Indeed, I think this cockpit glass is going to look great when we do the finishing work and position the open windows inside. To my knowledge no one has yet built a B-17 in 1/48 scale with the cockpit windows open.
Redhand
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Posted: Sunday, March 12, 2017 - 12:44 PM UTC
Thank you Richard! I've been bad not looking at your Oscar build but I will do it soon. I have no doubt that I'll be blown away as they say. Seriously.

Yeah, this is different stuff. "Bodywork" is not my strong suit although I have managed a minor conversion here and there. I will feel a lot better about the build once this is done, and I can "move on." However before that I get to the wings I've got to do the ball turret and the nose, and of course the re-scribing of various obliterated panel lines etc.

My North Carolina friend is taking another "cut" at cutting out the pilot and copilot's windows so that we can position them open, and that has also held things up.

I'm going to promise myself to go back to my old "15 minute rule." Basically, at a minimum each day I'll do at least that amount of work on the model. That helps when you have to do tedious steps like this. Breaking it down makes it easier.

I am still heavily intrigued by the idea of doing neutral gray and OD, at least on a faux primer basis, before moving to the wings. The ideal thing will be to have the fuselage sufficiently cleaned up and "ready to go" so that I can attack the wings with some enthusiasm. If I go that route I will also glue on the horizontal stabilizers, but I'll save the elevators and rudder till later.

Of course, the wheel wells will be a major challenge.
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Posted: Sunday, March 12, 2017 - 06:47 AM UTC
Brian -

Nice to see an update and I'm glad you are able to find at least a little time for your hobby. With what you are working on now being so completely different from the years of interior detail work I should think the change might be welcome ?

Keep at it and I'm very much looking forward to Mosquitocon!

Richard
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Posted: Sunday, March 12, 2017 - 05:12 AM UTC
SCUT WORK

I will preface this post with a "war story" from my personal way-back machine in January 1974 when I was a US Naval Reserve Lt.(jg) on active duty for the last seven months of my three years' service. After my ship, USS Douglas H. Fox (DD-779) had been decommissioned and sold to the Chilean Navy I was transferred for my last seven months of active duty to the Philadelphia Naval Shipyard, where I was to serve as a "Ship Superintendent." I was one of a number of officers (the most junior by far of three attached to this particular job) assigned to oversee progress on the upgrade and modernization of the guided missile frigate USS Maconough (DLG-9).

So, yeah, for seven months of my life I worked in a heavy industrial environment rather than sitting behind the desk. It was actually one of the most fascinating seven months of my life work-wise.

Anyway, the other officers assigned to oversee the work took me "aboard" to see the ship.

There are roughly 3 phases to a job of this magnitude. First is what's called the "rip out." Second is what I guess you could call the rebuild when everything that's been modernized and fixed, including boilers, major pieces of machinery, etc. etc. is put back into the ship. And third is finishing the ship up including sea trials and ultimately re-commissioning. I started work just as the rebuild got into high gear.

Let me just say this. When I walked across the gangplank into the midsection of the ship and saw what surrounded me my initial reaction was, "They will never be able to put this thing back together." It was just that much of a mess. It was inconceivable to my untrained, unprofessional eye how anything that completely disassembled could ever be put made functional again. You know, like Humpty Dumpty.

Anyway, of course that wasn't true. Incredibly, at the end it looked beautiful. And it worked. However, that initial impression is how I feel about this phase of this build, and how utterly tedious it is getting to the final stages.










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Posted: Tuesday, February 21, 2017 - 01:26 PM UTC
Looking good Brian!

Still quietly following along!

Cheers Rob.
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Posted: Tuesday, February 21, 2017 - 06:02 AM UTC
Brian,
Welcome back to the real world of Plastic Scale Modeling. Although I sense that your professional life once again will become more complicated with the 2nd executive immigration ban that is ready to be rolled out.

I have absolutely no doubt nor concerns that you'll deal with each and everyone of those surface issues till they're 101% dead on perfect. After all, you set a standard for the build with what you accomplished and how you accomplished it with the interior, and I have no doubts that those standards will be maintained.

As far as not sanding down the raised panel lines, and re-scribing them, I'm in your camp. I truly suck at scribing period, and I've tried several scribers including the UMM-USA #1, which is really a multi tasker as well, and still make more mistakes then fixes.

I do remember the best fix I ever used on raised panel lines was to lightly sand them down, polish then a black or very dark wash along just the lower side and the same vertical side. the end result looks almost like recessed panel lines. The true art is to have them blend in with recessed panel lines.

As for the Tamiya Gray primer, I've used it for years until I found Mig AMM Acrylic primer, which is the best I've ever used by far. Cut the Tamiya primer with their Yellow top lacquer primer, and you're good to go.

Joel
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Posted: Tuesday, February 21, 2017 - 05:28 AM UTC
Brian - Glad to see you are still of this earth. I hope you have not used Vallejo primer on the B 17 . I have used it for the first time on my Hayabusa project and it is TERRIBLE! Don't want to derail your blog so I'll bore everyone with the details on my next post- suffice it to say that if you have a strong dislike for someone recommend Vallejo primer to them - sweet vengeance.
Richard
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Posted: Monday, February 20, 2017 - 10:23 PM UTC
STILL HERE

I see that I have 20 followers now, which makes it all the more embarrassing that I have been inactive of late. (At least on this build! Anyone following US immigration policy under the new administration can imagine what my life as a private immigration lawyer is like these days).

Anyway enough of that alternate universe. Let's get back to what's really important. Here are some long-delayed pictures of the interior pre "fuselage glue-together." These are from my new "ImageShack" online account. (Thank you Joel!)



This will actually look pretty good with the resin nose ring that my North Carolina friend made.













And here are some post-fuselage-glue-together pics showing the work necessary around the radio room compartment.









I long for the day when all of this stuff is sanded and feathered in and the fuselage is re-scribed! This kind of work is not my strong suit and I have fleeting "Help Mr. Wizard!" feelings about it. For you younger folks, see https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGWolD1yfVE
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Posted: Thursday, February 09, 2017 - 01:32 PM UTC
Richard,
Technically, Brian never left. He just had to go back to work like 80 hrs per week.

Joel
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Posted: Thursday, February 09, 2017 - 12:24 PM UTC

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I will!



I may not be far behind you In jumping ship !
Glad your back - Richard
Redhand
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Posted: Thursday, February 09, 2017 - 11:24 AM UTC
I will!
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Posted: Thursday, February 09, 2017 - 11:00 AM UTC
Brian,
Simply amazing level of detailing. Certainly IPMS National standards for sure.

I was a long time Photobucket customer as I had their $1.99/month plan. Over the last year they've had one issue after another with logging on, then upload issues, having to do Google searches to find the backdoor in, and more times then not the upload speed was worse then using a phone line and 56, modem. Finally I had enough.

I joined Image shack. The difference is like night and day. Upload speeds are insane, they're that lightening fast. I signed up for their $2.99/month plan. I've yet to have a single issue. Do yourself a favor and check it out.

Joel
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Posted: Thursday, February 09, 2017 - 10:46 AM UTC
Thank you Brian, you have sated our nagging appetites... for a little while

Redhand
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Posted: Thursday, February 09, 2017 - 10:43 AM UTC
OK YOUZE GUYS

Truth is I've been ridiculously busy at work, especially after Trump's executive orders. Needless to say, there is a high spike in interest in naturalization! (As I've mentioned before, my day job is an immigration lawyer). I won't say more lest I run afoul of the "No shop in mess" rule.

As the last post shows the fuselage is definitely together. I still have to glue the pilots' roof on, and there may be some delay in that because my North Carolina friend is cutting out the copilot's window. More on that when it is done.

I am having problems uploading files in Photobucket, but hope it is only a temporary glitch. However, here are some of the interior shots that I did previously upload before running in the technical problems. Warning: there may be some duplicates from prior posts.











There will be more to follow when Photobucket starts behaving.
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Posted: Thursday, February 09, 2017 - 09:21 AM UTC

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How are things coming along Brian ? You've been quiet of late and teased us with promises of more interior photos !



I'll 2nd that. Unless Brian and his wife are on vacation in the tropics or Florida and missed this monumental snow storm.

Joel
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Posted: Thursday, February 09, 2017 - 08:13 AM UTC
How are things coming along Brian ? You've been quiet of late and teased us with promises of more interior photos !
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Posted: Monday, January 09, 2017 - 08:52 PM UTC
Your most impressive works continues. Congrats to all this detail work.