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Tamiya 1/48 il-2 build
Gremlin56
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Posted: Wednesday, July 09, 2014 - 02:13 AM UTC
July 9th update:

Base layer of dirt has been applied. Panel lines picked out but hopefully not with a "Lego" effect
After a clean up sprayed a coat of Vallejo matt varnish, (best thing since sliced bread):








Of course there is still a way to go yet
DanielMoscatelli
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Posted: Wednesday, July 09, 2014 - 03:39 AM UTC
Now I understand his silence of radio!!!! Jajajjaja Friend Julian you do not stop surprising me!!!! My congratulationsfor the beautiful work here. .......

Vest regards Daniel
Joel_W
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Posted: Wednesday, July 09, 2014 - 03:39 AM UTC
Julian,
I really like the Flory washes, and use them for my sludge washes. Just one thing to keep in mind that I've found, once you apply them, they seem to stain the surfaces where no matter how much you rub, there is a slight discoloration. Exactly what you want in almost every case.

Past that I still use oils for the rest of my weathering. And by oils I mean Model Master enamel paints, not artist oils. Just too much linseed oil to have to deal with. Drying just takes forever.
Joel
Gremlin56
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Posted: Wednesday, July 09, 2014 - 04:08 AM UTC

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Now I understand his silence of radio!!!! Jajajjaja Friend Julian you do not stop surprising me!!!! My congratulationsfor the beautiful work here. .......

Vest regards Daniel



It's a secret Daniel, Getting acclimatised here while waiting for the Typhoon.

Gremlin56
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Posted: Wednesday, July 09, 2014 - 04:11 AM UTC

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Julian,
I really like the Flory washes, and use them for my sludge washes. Just one thing to keep in mind that I've found, once you apply them, they seem to stain the surfaces where no matter how much you rub, there is a slight discoloration. Exactly what you want in almost every case.

Past that I still use oils for the rest of my weathering. And by oils I mean Model Master enamel paints, not artist oils. Just too much linseed oil to have to deal with. Drying just takes forever.
Joel



Hi Joel, getting acquainted to the Flory washes. A gloss undercoat seems to be obligatory to be able to clean off what you don't want.
As far as oil paint is concerned our paths seem to diverge here I love the real deal and hardly have any enamels left in my paint collection. Just seems to work and wash better.

Emeritus
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Uusimaa, Finland
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Posted: Wednesday, July 09, 2014 - 08:20 AM UTC
Really nice (and fast too!) progress there. Coming along real nice.

About those Flory washes, aren't these the former Pro Modeller washes? I got a few bottles of those, good stuff! I really like how they're non-permanent until sealed with a clear coat.
Joel_W
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Posted: Wednesday, July 09, 2014 - 10:22 AM UTC
Julian,
It's the only thing I use enamels for these days. Although I know quite a few modelers that still only paint with enamels.
Joel
Gremlin56
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Posted: Wednesday, July 09, 2014 - 05:39 PM UTC

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Really nice (and fast too!) progress there. Coming along real nice.

About those Flory washes, aren't these the former Pro Modeller washes? I got a few bottles of those, good stuff! I really like how they're non-permanent until sealed with a clear coat.



Good morning Eetu,
I think they were originally issued by Pro-Modeller, this is first time I have bought them though. They work best on a gloss undercoat, then you can removed just about all you want to remove. Sealed with matt varnish it gives a very nice effect.
Gremlin56
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Posted: Wednesday, July 09, 2014 - 05:44 PM UTC

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Julian,
It's the only thing I use enamels for these days. Although I know quite a few modelers that still only paint with enamels.
Joel



I still occasionally use Humbrol's metalcoat enamels, gives a nice metal look when polished. I seem to remember someone who even hand painted his models using enamels and you really couldn't tell that he hadn't used an airbrush. I love doing the washes and pin washes with oils though and thinning them down with good grade oil thinners makes for fast drying time.
All a question of what is easily available and what you like working with. I seem to spend too much much money on paints
Gremlin56
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Posted: Friday, July 11, 2014 - 03:40 AM UTC
July 11th update:
Adding details, (navigation lights), finishing the cockpit "Greenhouse" and adding armaments. Going a tad further with the weathering and getting progressively more scared of going OTT:











mgrummitt
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Posted: Friday, July 11, 2014 - 04:56 AM UTC
Thanks for the fix!! Great job!!

Gremlin56
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Posted: Friday, July 11, 2014 - 05:09 AM UTC

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Thanks for the fix!! Great job!!



Yes, thank you Mike, glad you understand Not the Hornet but I needed some space. The Hornet will be finished though, it's too close to finals to break off the build.
Cheers mate,
TAFFY3
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Posted: Friday, July 11, 2014 - 08:38 AM UTC
Funny, Don't remember Hornet ever carrying one of these as part of her Airwing. Great job on one of... actually my only, favorite Russki aircraft. Gotta love a big, ugly, heavily armed and armored, flying tank! Al
Joel_W
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Posted: Friday, July 11, 2014 - 09:38 AM UTC
Julian,
Your weathering and final details look spectacular. I wouldn't go any further.

Phil Flory has always made the Flory washes. As a matter of fact the "Earth" comes from his backyard. Other dirt he's tried just doesn't have the same effect, Phil has no idea why.

Anyway, Phil Flory was Originally Pro Modeller of UK. He was sued by Revell Inc. to stop using that name as they had a North American copy write on it, but Phil had one in the UK. Anyway it basically came down to Phil not wanting to spend mega funds fighting Revell who would eventually win as they had way more funds to fight the court battles, so he dropped the name and went with Flory Models instead.

Joel
Gremlin56
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Posted: Friday, July 11, 2014 - 07:39 PM UTC
Hi Joel,
I remember these washes being advertised by "Luchtvaart Hobby Shop" near Schiphol. I never got hold of them though so when I saw them advertised by Flory Modelling I ordered there. Thanks for explaining the whole story.
I'll stop the weathering now, just some armament and antenna plus wires and the il-2 would appear to be finished
Gremlin56
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Posted: Friday, July 11, 2014 - 07:41 PM UTC

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Funny, Don't remember Hornet ever carrying one of these as part of her Airwing. Great job on one of... actually my only, favorite Russki aircraft. Gotta love a big, ugly, heavily armed and armored, flying tank! Al



Hi Al,
amazing bird despite her looks.One of the first purpose built "mud movers".........................
Gremlin56
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Posted: Saturday, July 12, 2014 - 01:42 AM UTC
July 12th update:

Just about all done here. Antenna and gunner's canopy wire rigged. Armament fitted. Wheels made dusty with pigments.
I couldn't resist comparing the il-2 with it's modern day relative: the Su-25.








Cheers,
Joel_W
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Posted: Saturday, July 12, 2014 - 05:49 AM UTC
Julian,
Congratulations on finishing an excellent build. Your IL-2 really looks quite good, as does your SU-25.
Joel
Gremlin56
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Posted: Saturday, July 12, 2014 - 05:57 AM UTC
Thank you very much Joel,
It has some warts but the things I learned on this build make for a very positive experience.
Tojo72
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Posted: Saturday, July 12, 2014 - 10:31 AM UTC
Nice job,the chipping looks good
Gremlin56
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Posted: Saturday, July 12, 2014 - 05:59 PM UTC
Thank you Anthony,
mgrummitt
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Posted: Wednesday, July 16, 2014 - 01:13 PM UTC
Looks great!, love that plane!,



Mike
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Posted: Friday, July 18, 2014 - 03:43 AM UTC

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Looks great!, love that plane!,



Mike



Thank you very much Mike!
cnq007
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Posted: Saturday, July 26, 2014 - 04:04 PM UTC
very very nice work Julian. This kit is one of the best kits from Tamiya. I built the same kit not too long ago. Here is mine if you don't mind I show it

Gremlin56
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Posted: Saturday, July 26, 2014 - 04:40 PM UTC
Hi Nguyen, I certainly don't mind you showing your build, it's gorgeous. I agree completely that the way Tamiya designed and engineered this model makes it the best I have ever seen.