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1937 C-65 Crawler @ 24th scale
turtle65
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Posted: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 - 04:21 PM UTC
all,
Just I'd throw this here (can't have okdoky hogging all the build log space .
Some will recognise it as the Trumpeter kit, but I'm too cheap to buy one and I prefer 24th scale ).
So with the assistance of some Russian contacts and t'web enough reference material was gathered to begin.









To be continued _ _ _ _
turtle65
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Posted: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 - 04:25 PM UTC
Intro - tick.
Time for some hack'n'slash:






and a bit more:






Please feel free to point out any shoddy workmanship or errors.
Cheers for having a looksie.

More to follow _ _ _ _
okdoky
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Scotland, United Kingdom
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Posted: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 - 05:27 PM UTC
Hi Roger

Glad to see you getting summit good on the table !!!!!! That already looks a real pucka build !!!!!!

Only critasism though, not enough glue stains and fingerprints to hold the weathering in place like mine will have !!!!!!!! Ha ha ha ha ha !!!!!!!!

Will be looking in and seeing how you get on

Nice choice of subject too

Nige
Giovanni1508
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Napoli, Italy
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Posted: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 - 10:27 PM UTC

Hi Roger,

This is a very nice subject. I like your project and I'm thinking seriously to follow you, but in 1:35 scale.

I'm scared about the tracks. I don't know how to do... I'm waiting for you

Cheers

Giovanni
turtle65
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Posted: Wednesday, January 14, 2015 - 03:51 AM UTC
Nige, I'll see what I can do about the fingerprints and glue marks . Just needed something fairly "easy" and being too lazy to scratch some tyres at the moment this little clanky thing was the first choice.

Giovanni, cheers for looking in. Things like the tracks are further down the line and will tackle that problem when I get there (but I have a couple of methods I want to try ).

In the mean time a little bit of marking out and hack'n'slash has happened, lower track guards:




Till next time _ _ _ _
turtle65
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Posted: Wednesday, January 14, 2015 - 07:08 AM UTC
And next time has arrived , = almost finished lower track guards, just have to radius the ends however that might be best to wait till they are on the track frames - might have to do some track frames soon :




As usual, feel free to point out anything that doesn't look right .

To be continued _ _ _ _
KoSprueOne
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Myanmar
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Posted: Wednesday, January 14, 2015 - 10:15 AM UTC
I'll be paying attention to this build




Giovanni1508
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Napoli, Italy
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Posted: Wednesday, January 14, 2015 - 02:25 PM UTC

Hi Roger,

Great job so far.

Track guards are made by plasticard, right ? Thickness ?

Tks
turtle65
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Posted: Thursday, January 15, 2015 - 02:53 AM UTC
Giovanni, yes it's all plasticard. The lower track guards are .3mm thickness. For this project the bulk of the build will be .4mm or .5mm with some areas using .3mm and .75mm sheet.

And the continuation , time to slap together some track frames:







Just plodding along doing the easier piece's first so as to get back into modelling with less 'stress'

Cheers for popping in for a gander, till the next installment _ _ _ _
turtle65
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Posted: Friday, January 16, 2015 - 04:30 AM UTC
Time for a new installment .
Lower track frames - tick
Main track frames - tick
might need something to fill them:



and while I was messing about with various pieces I thought why not throw some glue at them and see where we're at :






To be continued _ _ _ _
okdoky
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Scotland, United Kingdom
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Posted: Friday, January 16, 2015 - 06:14 AM UTC
Cracking work and too damned neat !!!!!!!!!!!! Attacking my fence this weekend so have a feeling you are going to be showing me up with the speed of your build Roger !!!!!!!!!!!

Love that engineering !!!!!!!!!!

Nige
justsendit
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Colorado, United States
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Posted: Friday, January 16, 2015 - 09:58 AM UTC
This is already a great build to follow ... nice work so far! Thanks for sharing the blow-by-blow!

—mike
turtle65
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Posted: Saturday, January 17, 2015 - 07:38 AM UTC
Mike.
Bit of slow day, the balance beam trunnions proved to a bit harder than they look :




The balance beam is still being slapped together, hopefully I'll get that area cobbled together soon.

As per usual feel free to point out any mistakes, rough work etc.
Ta.

Back after this short commercial break _ _ _ _
turtle65
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Posted: Monday, January 19, 2015 - 11:36 AM UTC
Commercial breaks seem to being getting longer .
Anywho time to start an area that will definitely slow down progress , lots of subassemblies that need to line up with each other :

the 1:1:




and the 24th version started:




In the words of Vera Lynn "till we meet again" _ _ _ _
JClapp
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Massachusetts, United States
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Posted: Monday, January 19, 2015 - 08:10 PM UTC
First rate scratch building!
the tiny fiddly engine parts will definately be challenging, looking forward to your solutions.
turtle65
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Posted: Tuesday, January 20, 2015 - 02:35 PM UTC
Cheers for that Jonathan,

Quoted Text

looking forward to your solutions.


I'm looking forward to how I solve some of the fiddly bits to .
Basically I've broken the entire engine into 60 yes 60 sub-assemblies. Now it's just a case of plodding through and making each one and making sure it mates up with the previous and next piece .
Cheers to all for popping in.
More progress soon _ _ _ _
turtle65
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Posted: Wednesday, February 04, 2015 - 01:17 PM UTC
all,
well must admit there's been sod all progress here. Started on the final drive units but have just realized I've messed up and they have to be rebuilt . And the only other bit I've worked with (front cross-member)is still unfinished :




Long weekend here so I should get a chance to make some proper progress.
Ta for looking in.
turtle65
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Posted: Friday, February 20, 2015 - 09:31 AM UTC
Well not really sure if I'll continue with this project.
It appears I've botched up a few areas and they'll need complete rebuilding .
I'm not one to shy away from admitting or showing my mess-ups so here is one of them - the two arms off of the track frame are not meant to intersect - have checked and triple checked all my measurements but cannot find where things went pear-shaped:




Might just pack it away for now and maybe one day might get around to finishing it.
Cheers for looking in.
JClapp
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Posted: Friday, February 20, 2015 - 08:07 PM UTC
That's certainly unhappy news, my sympathies. It's never fun to write off a lot of time and effort, not to mention material. But engineering work definately always includes errors and revisions.

You have masses of other good work already in the project.
Jaw dropping lovely craftsmanship.

So absolutely, give it a rest, work on something else. I'll be watching out for whatever you care to share.


2002hummer
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Ontario, Canada
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Posted: Friday, February 20, 2015 - 11:52 PM UTC
Hello Roger, I hate to see you put the build on the back burner but maybe the rest will let you unwind and go onto other projects. I know you will be back for this at some point. Don't get to discouraged, you will be back. Like Jonathan I will keep watching for your return.
justsendit
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Posted: Friday, February 20, 2015 - 11:59 PM UTC
I agree with the others and I'd love to see this go forward at some point. Thank you for sharing your work thus far.

—mike
turtle65
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Posted: Sunday, February 22, 2015 - 08:27 AM UTC
Cheers for the encouragement guy's.
At this point I'm just going to quietly put it aside (have worked out a compromise solution) but need to do a 'quickie fun' build so I don't hit the detail overload syndrome.
Thanks again.
southpier
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Alberta, Canada
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Posted: Thursday, March 12, 2015 - 01:45 PM UTC
this is some great fabrication. i have no familiarity with the subject and as such cannot testify to the authenticity of the model. if you're not working on this one, i'm sure whatever projects you've got going are equally superb in their execution.
TexasBlues
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Posted: Wednesday, March 18, 2015 - 10:18 PM UTC
that's SO great (not the shelving part, the workmanship)...how do you cut all that material?

I always get into SPAZ mode when I start making progress... then I get sloppy...

what sort of tools are you using to make those bends and shapes?

TB
turtle65
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Posted: Thursday, March 19, 2015 - 05:27 PM UTC
Matt,
For tools I use just the basics:
standard modelling knife (#11 blades, and lots of them ),
Tamiya thin cement + a mix of Tamiya thick and thin (approx 50/50) for laminating,
all measuring and marking is done with a vernier caliper,
300 & 150mm steel rules,
plus an assortment of drill bits and a pin vise.

All the right-angle pieces are just Evergreen strip or cut as required sheet and simple butt-joints.
Any curved areas are usually sheet plastic wrapped around an internal frame. I'll post some WIP photo's of the fuel tank and these show the method (picture paints a thousand words ).

The further the progress I make, the slower the build becomes - the opposite of you.

Cheers to all for looking in.