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World War II: USA
Aircraft of the United States in WWII.
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56th FG Operations/Black Widow
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Posted: Tuesday, August 09, 2016 - 01:08 AM UTC
Hi Lars,
just checked out your blog. Nice build so far. I will also follow that. What T'bolt will you build?
If you follow my builds here on Aeroscale (e.g. in my assembly line thread) you will notice that there's no weathering at all on my models. Just check out the 2013 finished "Hawkeye" from the posting above and you know what I mean. It's just that I don't want to spoil my work in the end ...
Oh, and while you were spending your holidays in Spain, I was at the other end of Europe, in sunny Latvia, where it was also always between 20 and 30C. A great place to be!

Torsten
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Posted: Monday, August 08, 2016 - 09:53 PM UTC
Hi Thorsten, nice build wich I will follow since I build a P-47 myself atm. One question, will you do a bit more weathering on the cockpits? It looks a bit clean to me...

gr TC
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Posted: Sunday, August 07, 2016 - 11:26 PM UTC
There are some differences on the IP of the D Razorback and the M. I took the decals from the sheet - not placed 100 % correctly and used my strong softener Agama Hypersol. It makes no jokes with the decals, so I have to be veeery careful with it. Left side D, right side M ....


Cockpits are finished now. Here are some photos I made during assembly. Paint is Interior Green 71010 from Vallejo, which comes close to FS 34151. Seatbelts are made from Kip Tape and painted in Light Grey. First the office for the M ....




.... and here the cockpit for the D ....




.... everything fits wonderful together. It's like an easy assembly kit. I love the Tamiya engineering. Okay, their P-47 kits are the best kits they have in their aircraft program, I guess.


Next update soon
Torsten
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Posted: Friday, August 05, 2016 - 03:23 AM UTC

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Thanks for the detailed infos, Joel. After reading it, I changed my mind concerning Fern Green and took now Vallejo Interior Green 71010 for the cockpit which should be close to FS 34151.
No photos now, I'll give a small update when the cockpits are put together and I've done the detail painting.
Oh, btw, do you know if the wheel wells of the M were also painted in Zinc Chromate or were they left in NMF?

Torsten



Torsten,
I'm really glad that my paint info was help. As for the wheel wells, I really don't know if they changed from YZC o not. My assumption is that they didn't.

Looking forward to your next update.

Joel
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Posted: Friday, August 05, 2016 - 12:31 AM UTC
Thanks for the detailed infos, Joel. After reading it, I changed my mind concerning Fern Green and took now Vallejo Interior Green 71010 for the cockpit which should be close to FS 34151.
No photos now, I'll give a small update when the cockpits are put together and I've done the detail painting.
Oh, btw, do you know if the wheel wells of the M were also painted in Zinc Chromate or were they left in NMF?

Torsten
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Posted: Thursday, August 04, 2016 - 02:37 AM UTC
Torsten,
I checked the link for the colors and the Revell Green looks about right especially if it's a tad darker, as the spec was for ANA 611. Earlier Jugs were painted a color closer to Dark Interior Green, at least out of the Farmingdale plant.

The inside of the cowling was left Natural Metal with just a clear protective coating. The deck behind the seat and the sides of he Razorback were supposed to be painted the same color as the anti glare panel, which was Olive Green. The Wheel wells, and the rest of the interior of the was YZC, so that Reed Green should work as well.

One thing I really like about WWII aircraft is that the colors varied so much, that it's hard to go wrong.

Joel
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Posted: Thursday, August 04, 2016 - 01:42 AM UTC
Joel, I mostly use Revell Aqua Color paints and for the cockpits of USAAF aircraft I often use what Revell calls "Fern Green". In fact it looks far brighter than on their webside.
For the wheel wells and other interior I will use their "Reed Green", which is a bit more yellowish to me than on their webside.
You may remember my Tamiya P-47 Razorback called "Hawkeye" which I've build a few years ago. There I used the same paints. Any other suggestions?

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Posted: Thursday, August 04, 2016 - 01:16 AM UTC
Torsten,
what color are you going to be painting both cockpits?
Joel
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Posted: Wednesday, August 03, 2016 - 11:45 PM UTC
Thanks Damian! I also remember that there are some differences in the engine and the cockpit between the D- and M-Model. Nothing to really worry about for me. Started with the kits today with some cockpit parts, so I can start painting the interior tomorrow. Not much to show yet but here's my work for today ....
Left side D, right side M
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Posted: Wednesday, August 03, 2016 - 02:55 AM UTC
Torsten, wonderful to have you join us and I am really looking forward to your dual-build here. I believe that the major difference with the M was internal, the engine and supercharger, so you should be able to use the D.

Great choice of markings for both builds, two very different schemes from opposite ends of the conflict. They will make a great display together.

Cheers, D
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Posted: Wednesday, August 03, 2016 - 01:24 AM UTC
Joel, glad to have you at my side!
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Posted: Wednesday, August 03, 2016 - 01:00 AM UTC
Torsten,
I'm subscribing to your duel build blog. I wouldn't miss this for the anything.
Joel
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Posted: Tuesday, August 02, 2016 - 11:15 PM UTC
After spending 3 fantastic weeks of vacations in great Latvia, I'll be back at the bench soon with my last Campaign builds for this year. As a build blog is requested for this campaign, I will start my first ever ....
As far as I have noticed there is one aircraft still missing in this campaign for which the 56th FG is well known for, being the solitary USAAF unit to use it in WW 2 - the P-47 M. So I will build one but .... one of the early birds of this type without fin. I guess I can use also the D-Model for that, can I? Or must I change somthing which is visible in the end?
So here is my plan:
Tamiya 1/48 P-47 D, build as an -M ....

.... with the AeroMaster decals of "Miss June", flown by Lt. Eugene Andermatt of the 63. FS


And yes, it will become a dual combo again!
The other bird will be a P-47 D "Rasiermesser", again Tamiya 1/48 ....

.... build as "Ole Cock" from that great decal sheet of the book "56th Fighter Group Part 1" from our Nigel Julian. But I will paint it in its earlier days with white theater markings, as can be seen on the photos on page 18 in that fantastic book.
Please let me know, if there's anything wrong using the Tamiya -D for building the -M. I have also the Tamiya -M kit in my stash. Although I have other plans for that kit ....

Happy modelling!
Torsten