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c4willy
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Posted: Friday, January 19, 2018 - 09:25 PM GMT+7
And we've got paint on! While the Hobbycraft kit may not be the most detailed kit right out of the box it builds into a rather nice kit. Especially after adding the resin parts to improve the looks of the airframe. Although I feel I should have looked for a replacement carburettor intake as the kit part is just a blank with no opening. I think I'll rummage through my spares I have a vague idea there's a carb intake front with a recess.

IMG_2000 by Chris WIlson, on Flickr

IMG_1999 by Chris WIlson, on Flickr

IMG_1998 by Chris WIlson, on Flickr

MichaelSatin
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Posted: Thursday, January 18, 2018 - 09:54 AM GMT+7
I had that problem with my Iwata when the crown was on it. I removed that and never had the issue again. This renders the needle more liable to damage, but it helped my painting.

Michael
c4willy
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Posted: Thursday, January 18, 2018 - 08:44 AM GMT+7
Definitely sounds like paint build up on the tip usually happens when paint collects on it, as to why it happened not too sure. Paint volume coming out of the nozzle was possibly to high and not really sure of a fix for that. Perhaps the paint was just that little bit over thinned and the volume was a little too high. I've had it happen but usually when I've got the paint a little too thin.
bomber14
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Posted: Thursday, January 18, 2018 - 08:24 AM GMT+7

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However after doing some web gazing I ran across this piece by Dana Bell who's done some exceptional research regarding the colours for interiors. And it would appear Bronze green was used, well actually a mix of Zinc Chromate and black. Follow the link and read for yourself.



If you can't trust Dana Bell, you can't trust anyone. If I saw that he has made a ruling on color, I would confidently go with it.

Great work, everyone! Still struggling with whether to get moving on the Tamiya 1/32 F4U-1D to go with my Ki-84. Today may decide it.

Michael


chris/michael: thanks, i read over the doc and that is exactly what i did. i mixed some flt black to zinc yellow and sprayed it through my new ab. i think i added a little too much black though, it is closer to interior green anyway-lol.

a question, and i realize this is off topic a little. i am not an expert on the airbrush and what happened was/is a little confusing. i thinned my mix of enamels and sprayed with my new ab. it is by creative air and has a cut out cone like a kings crown. it was spraying beautifully but after a moment it started spitting drops. i thought at first it was moisture but it was paint. i think it was built up on the crone/tip of my ab and spraying off with the spray. what caused this? the paint was thinned properly, not spidering as with too much thinner and not thick and clogging. this has never happened to me before with my other brushes so i am at a loss. any help please? i was thinking maybe i had the paint pre set open too much so i cut down the paint flow.or,-the ab has three needles .020,.030,.050. maybe the factory put the wrong needle and nozzle on it.

thanks-joe
md72
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Posted: Thursday, January 18, 2018 - 06:29 AM GMT+7
Well, Hornby informs me that for L3 sterling, they will gladly send me a replacement part.... That's about a third of what I paid for the kit, but still only half of what MRC wanted for a P-47 part I lost.... Of course the phone call to the UK probably set me back a bit.
md72
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Posted: Tuesday, January 16, 2018 - 06:32 PM GMT+7
Got the gull gray interior parts shot tonight. A bit of black parts and I can start assembly..

MichaelSatin
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Posted: Monday, January 15, 2018 - 01:38 AM GMT+7

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Well, it might work. all of the mating parts fit. and itseems tofit into the fuselage.



Good one, Mark! Painted and in place you won't be able to tell the difference. You're sure to find the original now.

Michael
md72
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Posted: Sunday, January 14, 2018 - 05:11 PM GMT+7
Well, it might work. all of the mating parts fit. and itseems tofit into the fuselage.

c4willy
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Posted: Saturday, January 13, 2018 - 09:52 PM GMT+7
Damn Mark that sucks! I know that feeling then once I've got it all together the missing part miraculously reappears!

Well my entry for this campaign is a Hobbycraft Seafire Mk XV, waits for collective sudden intake of breath. Yes I know not exactly an accurate kit but I'm adding some resin and white metal bits that will hopefully make it a little better. I've got a build log up and I'll just give you a pic of the kit box as the kit itself is a bagged kit and has no box as such.

Hobbycraft Mk XV Seafire by Chris WIlson, on Flickr
md72
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Posted: Saturday, January 13, 2018 - 05:58 PM GMT+7
Well that was brilliant, I have barely started to paint the details and I've managed to lose a critical part.
I've managed to scratch up a replacement that might work. This model would never pass muster at a contest now...
RadekZ
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Posted: Saturday, January 13, 2018 - 10:57 AM GMT+7
Hi,
a little more progress on Buffalo.
I managed to fit all these fiddly tiny PE parts, but can't say zero f**ks given... I swore terribly while assembling these stuff

Nevertheless, hull is now closed with cockpit elements installed.
Tamiya's instructions suggested painting cockpit area with XF-3 Yellow / XF-5 Green mix 1:2 , but instead I used Gunze H58 US interior colours for WW2 planes. Apart of this a little bit of black paint (Tamiya) & aluminium from Vallejo Metal Color series.
I added a little weathering by drybrushing with silver colour from VMC and a little wash with Tamiya's brown panel liner.

Here are the results:





And here's fuselage glued together:



Cheers,
Radek

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Posted: Saturday, January 13, 2018 - 03:24 AM GMT+7

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However after doing some web gazing I ran across this piece by Dana Bell who's done some exceptional research regarding the colours for interiors. And it would appear Bronze green was used, well actually a mix of Zinc Chromate and black. Follow the link and read for yourself.



If you can't trust Dana Bell, you can't trust anyone. If I saw that he has made a ruling on color, I would confidently go with it.

Great work, everyone! Still struggling with whether to get moving on the Tamiya 1/32 F4U-1D to go with my Ki-84. Today may decide it.

Michael
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Posted: Friday, January 12, 2018 - 03:28 PM GMT+7
iain, really nice clean looking job so far.

The decals for the RNZA F4U arrived today.

Bob
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Posted: Thursday, January 11, 2018 - 10:00 PM GMT+7
Ready for paint.



The cowling is just held on with masking fluid from the inside, so I don't have to try and mask up the engine and it can be installed after painting.
c4willy
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Posted: Thursday, January 11, 2018 - 06:54 PM GMT+7
Joe the book only gives the basics and provides black and white pics of the pilots, bombardiers and radio operator/gunners positions which would all appear to be in natural aluminium or painted silver. No other information is given other than a brief combat history of the type.

However after doing some web gazing I ran across this piece by Dana Bell who's done some exceptional research regarding the colours for interiors. And it would appear Bronze green was used, well actually a mix of Zinc Chromate and black. Follow the link and read for yourself.
bomber14
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Posted: Thursday, January 11, 2018 - 02:01 AM GMT+7

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Remember to that the government wasn't there in the front lines so it was whatever was fastest and easiest for the maintenance crews. And I remember that it was pretty hectic at that time so it would have been whatever was expedient. But I've got a monograph for the devastator that came with a kit I bought I'll take a look and see what it recommends and let you know when I get home.



thanks chris. lets see what you turn up. both points make sense and the planes were needed so they didn't have too much time to get it done.

joe
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Posted: Thursday, January 11, 2018 - 01:58 AM GMT+7

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Hey Joe,

Good news, bad news. My reading would indicate that the interior of all TBD's overhauled were painted interior green, and were painted in war time colors (grey) in 1941. All combat TBD's were overhauled. So interior green is appropriate for a Midway TBD. Note the US Navy didn't start using shoulder harnesses until after Midway, so that should save a little bit of time.

John



thanks john. i was considering painting just the fuselage walls silver and everything else int green but maybe i will just go all green. either way i get to test my new airbrush that santa gave me.
interesting fact about the shoulder harness. i know the p-40 b/c's did not have shoulder harnesses but i was not aware the navy didn't either. was the lack of shoulder harnesses throughout the us military or just the army/navy? because i see a lot of builds that should be without then.
joe
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Posted: Thursday, January 11, 2018 - 01:53 AM GMT+7
from what i seen the landing gear were semi gloss black. i think maybe the inside of the small gear doors were too.














joe
md72
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Posted: Thursday, January 11, 2018 - 01:35 AM GMT+7
yep, my next steps are to mask gear bay and paint it gull gray.
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Posted: Wednesday, January 10, 2018 - 06:27 PM GMT+7
Mark - FWIW the gear bay (as it were) should be the underside colour.

Feel free to leave it as is, just thought I'd point it out.
md72
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Posted: Wednesday, January 10, 2018 - 06:21 PM GMT+7
Finally,got some real work done on my F4F.


john41492
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Posted: Wednesday, January 10, 2018 - 10:57 AM GMT+7
Hey Joe,

Good news, bad news. My reading would indicate that the interior of all TBD's overhauled were painted interior green, and were painted in war time colors (grey) in 1941. All combat TBD's were overhauled. So interior green is appropriate for a Midway TBD. Note the US Navy didn't start using shoulder harnesses until after Midway, so that should save a little bit of time.

John
c4willy
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Posted: Tuesday, January 09, 2018 - 08:47 AM GMT+7
Remember to that the government wasn't there in the front lines so it was whatever was fastest and easiest for the maintenance crews. And I remember that it was pretty hectic at that time so it would have been whatever was expedient. But I've got a monograph for the devastator that came with a kit I bought I'll take a look and see what it recommends and let you know when I get home.
bomber14
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Posted: Tuesday, January 09, 2018 - 07:41 AM GMT+7
true chris.my reasoning would be it was easy enough to give the exterior a coat of war paint (blue gray over grey) but to remove all the knobs, switches, panels,buttons,and levers in the cockpit just to give the cockpit walls a spray of int green and then bolt everything back would be a major PIA and time consuming. but who knows with the government's ways. would be interesting for me to know too.

joe
c4willy
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Posted: Tuesday, January 09, 2018 - 06:55 AM GMT+7
All depends if they were overhauled Joe, as when they were overhauled they were repainted otherwise it's whatever they were pre-war. Which I believe was actually a silver paint? Or was it bare Aluminium? Not terribly sure on that count. So as with most things it's open to interpretation and who's to say you're wrong? Certainly not me!