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Eduard: New Tool Bf 109G-10
GastonMarty
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Quebec, Canada
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Posted: Monday, October 23, 2017 - 02:14 PM GMT+7

Great times for Gustav fans... after a near 30 year drought!

I spent much of the early 2000s trying to make an accurate kit of the Hasegawa G-6 with an Otaki nose (actually aiming for a G-2), and now there is 3 of them!

Gaston
mrockhill
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Posted: Saturday, October 21, 2017 - 02:29 PM GMT+7
I too look foward to as many new 109s as these manufacturers are willing to tool up! Tamiya g-6 is hardly the death of eduards 109 ambitions. Tamiya will make the g-6 and likely be done with 109s for quite some time. Eduard is offering boxes of just about each variant with far more interesting decal options than tamiyas typically cliche schemes. The Tamiya may become the new 109g for the masses but Eduards will still do quite well with their more specialized and diverse offerings.... all the while still making $$ selling aftetmarket bits for the tamiya kit


BlackWidow
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Posted: Friday, October 20, 2017 - 03:33 AM GMT+7
It's good to see a new G-10 in quarterscale. The Hasegawa kit is how old now? And we don't want to speak about the Revell-Monogram kit ....


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...but there's always the risk of getting clobbered by UK customs and handling (I actually got hit by a whopping bill for some un-requested samples from the US last month! There doesn't seem to be any way to reclaim it, so that was a painful surprise delivery).

All the best

Rowan



Rowan, I made about the same experience a few years ago, when I got a postcard from our local customs office, that they had a parcel for me from Australia with no invoice on the outside. I should come around, pay tax and get it. But I hadn't ordered anything in Oz! The office is just a few minutes walking distance from my work, so I went there to see the parcel I hadn't ordered. I explained that I hadn't ordered anything from that company and was told that I could also reject delivery. They would send it back to the sender. As there was no invoice on the outside I asked the customs guy if we could open it and we found the invoice inside. When I looked at the email address of the purchaser I laughed and paid the customs tax. It was an order by my swiss friend Markus and the parcel erroneously was send to my address. I sometimes get parcels for my swiss friends sent from model kit companies inside the EU but not from overseas. In the evening I wrote Markus a mail and handed him the parcel over the next time we met. He was surprised that I have got this parcel for which he waited for a long time ....

Torsten

Oh, btw, it was a resin bulldozer inside that parcel ....
Herchealer
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Posted: Monday, October 16, 2017 - 10:32 AM GMT+7
I have to say I am actually looking forward to both of the kits. I am however a BF-109 junky. There are just SO many different ones. Every one is a little different. I may be the exception. The Tamiya will be easier to build I am sure. But the PE set, canopy mask and 5 or 6 nice decal options, does make the almost 40 dollar price tag acceptable for the Eduard. I do usually get one Prof and a few weekends, so that I can get the most of the decal options.
Merlin
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Posted: Friday, October 13, 2017 - 07:21 AM GMT+7
Hi Gary

As you say, the law of distances.

In Europe, we'd be stunned to get a new-tool Tamiya kit for the price of an Eduard "Weekend Edition" - so I've no doubt the reverse equivalent applies to you. I usually buy Japanese kits from HLJ etc. - but there's always the risk of getting clobbered by UK customs and handling (I actually got hit by a whopping bill for some un-requested samples from the US last month! There doesn't seem to be any way to reclaim it, so that was a painful surprise delivery).

All the best

Rowan
GazzaS
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Posted: Friday, October 13, 2017 - 07:00 AM GMT+7
HI Rowan,
Here in Australia Asian kits are definitely cheaper than Czech models. Even the "sale" price of an Eduard kit is higher than the regular price of Tamiya. Italerei isn't cheap either, despite regularly being on the other side of the quality spectrum.

Just the law of distances, I guess.

I rarely buy from your half of the planet unless the item is hard to find, or free shipping is offered. And postage from the US... it's just crazy.

Gaz
Merlin
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Posted: Friday, October 13, 2017 - 06:44 AM GMT+7
Hi Gary

I've got to agree with Tim - the Tamiya Bf 109G-6 is very unlikely to be cheaper than an Eduard Profi-Pack kit in the UK. It'll be a different matter in Japan, of course. I think we'll be very lucky if we see the Tamiya kit going for less than £40 (probably £45) over here.

I'm really chuffed to see Eduard turn to a late-mark Gustav, because it probably means a Bf 109K isn't far behind. We haven't seen anything from Matrixone for quite a while, but Les would do a stunning job on those late-war paint schemes.

All the best

Rowan
Phoenix44
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Posted: Thursday, October 12, 2017 - 08:50 PM GMT+7
Well in Hannants, the latest Tamiya kit that is comparable is probably the Kawasaki Ki-61-Id Hien. That is selling for £39.99. The Eduard G-6 Profipack is selling for £32.30.

And the Hien doesn't come with the engine and magnets etc that Tamiya is showing for the G-6.

So in the UK at least my bet is on the Eduard kit being a fair bit cheaper.
GazzaS
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Posted: Thursday, October 12, 2017 - 06:49 PM GMT+7
TBH I want all of them. But the Eduard Profipacks are more than I want to pay. So, I have been buying G's and F's from less expensive companies like Revell, Hasegawa, KS(ex-Fujimi), Fujimi(old), Zvezda, and even UM. With a little love, old doesn't mean ugly.

I seriously doubt that a Tamiya 1/48 kit is going to cost as much as an Eduard kit, unless compared to the 'weekend edition'.

My last dance with Eduard and their FW190A8 left me unimpressed with the kit going partially-built into 'for-parts' status. The moldings looked great. But because the kit was made to be built with everything open, building it closed-up left me frustrated and angry that I'd wasted my money.

Irregardless, there are so many paint schemes and markings variations for any 109G, both companies would do well to produce as many variants as they can.

It's a beautiful machine!

Gaz

raypalmer
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Posted: Thursday, October 12, 2017 - 03:29 PM GMT+7
Tamiya's very impressive new tool G-6. I would guess going to the trouble of developing a new tool model only to find out Tamiya is releasing very nearly exactly the same subject in the same scale is pretty bad news.

A few luft enthusiasts are certainly going to want a G-6 and a G10 and a spare of each but I would wager the average buyer will want a Gustav, singular. Or even just a 109, singular. And let's be perfectly honest here I think Eduard do bloody excellent kits but Tamiya's really in a league of their own.

T0MM0-01
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Posted: Thursday, October 12, 2017 - 03:11 PM GMT+7
What "bad news " and for who ? Ray -- i cant wait , im looking forward to their G10 - it ine of my favorit planes ...lol
raypalmer
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Posted: Thursday, October 12, 2017 - 10:04 AM GMT+7
Boy have I got bad news for them!
litespeed
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Posted: Thursday, October 12, 2017 - 09:35 AM GMT+7


Eduard has released CAD images of a new tool 1/48 scale bf-109G-10

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