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GWH 1/48 scale Lockheed T-33A early ver.
Joel_W
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Posted: Wednesday, June 06, 2018 - 04:15 AM UTC

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Wow, I have missed this blog, but it was going through it now. You certainly have a very nice representation of the T-33 there Joel. Looking forward to Your next project.



Jacob,
so glad that you enjoyed your walk through my build presentation. I really enjoyed every step of it.

I've started my next build which is in the Automodeler site. It's the 1/24 scale Fujimi Martini Porsche 917K. Right now my plans are to alternate between aircraft and autos. That is if I can produce an acceptable gloss finish.

Joel
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Posted: Wednesday, June 06, 2018 - 04:12 AM UTC

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Joel! That one really turned out sharp! I was a bit sceptical of the all-grey scheme to start with but it really looks good when finished. The T-33 is an attractive aircraft and I'm amazed how long it served being based on a first-generation jet. Even if the swept-wing birds look faster the T-33/P-80 is a sleek design!



Magnus



Magnus,
thanks so much for stopping by, it's always appreciated as is your most positive comments. I was also somewhat concerned about the monotone gray paint scheme, but with a little weathering and enough decals, it holds it own interest level.

I just might do a F80 down the road as I really like the simple lines of the aircraft.

Joel
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Posted: Wednesday, June 06, 2018 - 03:40 AM UTC
Wow, I have missed this blog, but it was going through it now. You certainly have a very nice representation of the T-33 there Joel. Looking forward to Your next project.
magnusf
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Posted: Wednesday, June 06, 2018 - 03:06 AM UTC
Joel! That one really turned out sharp! I was a bit sceptical of the all-grey scheme to start with but it really looks good when finished. The T-33 is an attractive aircraft and I'm amazed how long it served being based on a first-generation jet. Even if the swept-wing birds look faster the T-33/P-80 is a sleek design!



Magnus
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Posted: Friday, June 01, 2018 - 01:44 AM UTC

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Beautiful Job my friend ! Must be getting close to Porsche time. Might that be 9:17 a.m. or p.m. ?

PM coming your way - Richard



Richard,
Thanks so much my friend for those most kind words. Coming from someone with your skill set, means quite a lot to me.

I've actually started the Porsche as I need to convert the Sebring version to the LeMans version for 1971 but not the long tail version. I'm more then halfway through it, as it's not that much of a big deal. When I get a little more done, I'll make my 1st post.

Joel
Joel_W
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Posted: Friday, June 01, 2018 - 01:41 AM UTC

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Saltwater fishing, you donít say. Iím partial to a bit of Kayak fishing in our harbour down the road. Unfortunately, there hasnít been a lot of that lately, just not enough time in the day to do everything I want to.



Spud,
I've been thinking about a small open style kayak I can put in my car and fish the backwaters of the harbors. Even the back of the inlets are fine.

Joel
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Posted: Thursday, May 31, 2018 - 11:34 AM UTC
Beautiful Job my friend ! Must be getting close to Porsche time. Might that be 9:17 a.m. or p.m. ?

PM coming your way - Richard
Willard79
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Posted: Thursday, May 31, 2018 - 09:58 AM UTC
Saltwater fishing, you donít say. Iím partial to a bit of Kayak fishing in our harbour down the road. Unfortunately, there hasnít been a lot of that lately, just not enough time in the day to do everything I want to.
Joel_W
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Posted: Thursday, May 31, 2018 - 09:01 AM UTC

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Hi Joel, I must admit that I too get a warm fuzzy when I put a build on the shelf that Iím particularly happy with. Your T33A, Iím sure, will be a stand out example on your shelf. Iím really enjoying the final photos a. because of the quality of the build, and b. the quality of the shots themselves.
I like the close-up of the nose, it shows no trace of decal film at all, and believe me when I say I looked for it.
Nice one.
PS I donít follow the Auto side of kitmaker, but Iíll be trying and find your car build when you get to it.

All the best.




Spud,

Glad I'm not the only one who feels that way at the end of a build. It's kind of like parting ways with a close friend. Sure we can visit anytime we want, but it's just not the same feeling anymore.

Thanks for the big thumbs up on how the T33-A turned out, as well as my photographs. Photography is my other hobby, and saltwater fishing the only sport I do these days.

I've always seemed to have an issue with a few decals on most of my builds. Finally, after watching Paul Budzik's video on decaling for the millionth time, it dawned on my he doesn't gloss coat his models including Matt finishes. His paint is that smooth. So while I can't get my primer and color coats as smooth as his, I buffed each coat till it was smooth including the Glosscoat. the end result is that none of the clear decal film anywhere shows, and there is a ton of it in those large decals. if I can do it, anyone can.


Joel
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Posted: Thursday, May 31, 2018 - 08:48 AM UTC
Hi Joel, I must admit that I too get a warm fuzzy when I put a build on the shelf that Iím particularly happy with. Your T33A, Iím sure, will be a stand out example on your shelf. Iím really enjoying the final photos a. because of the quality of the build, and b. the quality of the shots themselves.
I like the close-up of the nose, it shows no trace of decal film at all, and believe me when I say I looked for it.
Nice one.
PS I donít follow the Auto side of kitmaker, but Iíll be trying and find your car build when you get to it.

All the best.
Joel_W
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Posted: Thursday, May 31, 2018 - 06:24 AM UTC
Well, it's with mixed feelings that this will be my last update on the T-33A, as it finally has crossed the finish line. Every build I complete, I seem to get some kind of emotional attachment to, since we've spent literally 3 plus months, and countless hours together from the start of our journey to it's completion.

Since my last update the struts, wheels, and inside surfaces of the gear doors and dive brakes were primed with Mig Black primer, then the all received a coat of Alcad #101 flat Aluminum as in real life. The ejection seats are straight from the box, and are little mini kits that go together perfectly. I opted to make my own ejection harnesses out of strips of masking tape. The flaps were glued into place, and the last job was the taxi lights on the front strut. I didn't care much for the how the kit clear parts looked, so two applications of Microscale Krystal Kleer took care of that issue.

I'd like to thank each of you who has been along with me from the start to the finish, as well as all that have stopped by and checked out the build to date. All of you made it more then worth while spending the additional time in creating this build blog.

So without the need for further words, here is the finished T-33A.



























Joel
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Posted: Monday, May 28, 2018 - 12:37 AM UTC

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Hey Joel,
This has been an amazing build to follow!

I was wondering if you had a general idea of what paint mix you used? You said earlier you mixed Tamiya XF-20 Medium Gray with XF-2 White and FX-18 Medium Blue, but did you have any specific mixing ratio of the three with thinner? Or was it more of an eyeball job?

Hope this summer has been treating you well!

-Alan




Alan,

Thanks so much for your thumbs up on the T-33A build, it's much appreciated.

As a general rule I always keep record of my mixes, and this time started out the same way. My 1st attempt was just way to dark, so I kept on adding white, a touch more Blue, then more White till I finally got there. Unfortunately, I have zero idea of just how to duplicate the mix. I've run into problems from time to time with other mixes that I kept on playing with and not keeping records, that when I needed more I could get close but not duplicate it. So I started off with a full bottle of XF-19 Sky Gray, and then reduced it to 3/4 of a bottle. By the time I got done with my mix, the bottle was full again. Now I've got more then enough for a few more builds.

Joel
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Posted: Sunday, May 27, 2018 - 10:55 PM UTC
Hey Joel,
This has been an amazing build to follow!

I was wondering if you had a general idea of what paint mix you used? You said earlier you mixed Tamiya XF-20 Medium Gray with XF-2 White and FX-18 Medium Blue, but did you have any specific mixing ratio of the three with thinner? Or was it more of an eyeball job?

Hope this summer has been treating you well!

-Alan
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Posted: Saturday, May 19, 2018 - 06:21 PM UTC

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It has been some time since my last visit on your build , making wonderful progress on her . Awesome job on the decals and the rest of the build , in whole ...Super !


Terri




Hi Terri,
So glad you had time to stop by for a look, and like what you see. Progress in baby steps has been my middle name of late, but sooner or later I'll cross that finish line

Then my 1st race car in nearly 10 years. It's going to be the Fujimi 1/24 scale Porsche 917K Long Tail Martini winner of the 1971 12 hrs of Sebring. my memory is a little blurry about if I was at that race or the 1970 one. It's been a really long time.

Joel





Cool , a 917k ! I have one in the stash as well . It's not a fuijimi kit . It's by a company called Union Model company in Japan . Never heard of them , but I love Porsche . My Uncle in Germany used to work for them and was driving a new one every year . The decals are shot though . The kit is from the 70's i think .

Will be looking forward on your build Joel



Terri



Terri
You're a girl after my own heart. I really doesn't surprise me that you're a model gearhead, and most likely love the 1 to 1 sports/race cars.


I've never heard of that company before, but if the kit is up to your standards, you can get decals for the 3 different Martini 917K Long Tail cars for 1971 from Indy Cals. His decals are great, and very inexpensive.


Joel
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Posted: Saturday, May 19, 2018 - 06:10 PM UTC

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Joel - Looking good indeed - finish line in site !

Hope you will be posting pics of the Porsche build .

Cheers - Richard




Richard,
Thanks my friend for your thumbs up, it's always much appreciated. Yep, the finish line is just about in site, but as I've said, I seem to always hit some kind of issue just when I should be coasting across the line.

I'm certainly going to be posting my build blog on the Porsche 917K on our sister site; Automodeler. My goals for this build are really simple and to the point:

Learn how to do a gloss finish to the best of my abilities. I'm going with the complete Gravity line of paints and finishes. Decals are by Michael @ Indy Cal, which I believe are still from his Alps printers, so they have to be handled a little differently then regular decals as you can't touch them with any kind of Mineral Spirits. The kit comes with sticky Firestone decals for the tires, but I have regular decals as well just in case I screw it up.

PM incoming as I need some information about the Nassau Club.


Joel


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Posted: Saturday, May 19, 2018 - 05:46 PM UTC

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It has been some time since my last visit on your build , making wonderful progress on her . Awesome job on the decals and the rest of the build , in whole ...Super !


Terri




Hi Terri,
So glad you had time to stop by for a look, and like what you see. Progress in baby steps has been my middle name of late, but sooner or later I'll cross that finish line

Then my 1st race car in nearly 10 years. It's going to be the Fujimi 1/24 scale Porsche 917K Long Tail Martini winner of the 1971 12 hrs of Sebring. my memory is a little blurry about if I was at that race or the 1970 one. It's been a really long time.

Joel





Cool , a 917k ! I have one in the stash as well . It's not a fuijimi kit . It's by a company called Union Model company in Japan . Never heard of them , but I love Porsche . My Uncle in Germany used to work for them and was driving a new one every year . The decals are shot though . The kit is from the 70's i think .

Will be looking forward on your build Joel



Terri
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Posted: Saturday, May 19, 2018 - 05:25 PM UTC
Joel - Looking good indeed - finish line in site !

Hope you will be posting pics of the Porsche build .

Cheers - Richard
Joel_W
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Posted: Saturday, May 19, 2018 - 02:07 AM UTC

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It has been some time since my last visit on your build , making wonderful progress on her . Awesome job on the decals and the rest of the build , in whole ...Super !


Terri




Hi Terri,
So glad you had time to stop by for a look, and like what you see. Progress in baby steps has been my middle name of late, but sooner or later I'll cross that finish line

Then my 1st race car in nearly 10 years. It's going to be the Fujimi 1/24 scale Porsche 917K Long Tail Martini winner of the 1971 12 hrs of Sebring. my memory is a little blurry about if I was at that race or the 1970 one. It's been a really long time.

Joel
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Posted: Saturday, May 19, 2018 - 02:00 AM UTC

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Looking very nice Joel. Yes, I imagine subtle is the name of the game for this build. Easy to say. So far so good, finish line must be in sight?

regards.



Spud,
subtle and little steps is the name of the game with this build. I'm almost in sight of the finish line, but not quite. I always manage to have at least one hiccup just when I thought I was home free.

Joel
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Posted: Saturday, May 19, 2018 - 01:50 AM UTC
It has been some time since my last visit on your build , making wonderful progress on her . Awesome job on the decals and the rest of the build , in whole ...Super !


Terri
Willard79
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Posted: Saturday, May 19, 2018 - 01:44 AM UTC
Looking very nice Joel. Yes, I imagine subtle is the name of the game for this build. Easy to say. So far so good, finish line must be in sight?

regards.
Joel_W
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Posted: Friday, May 18, 2018 - 11:12 PM UTC
Well, another week has passed and a little more progress has been made. I sealed the decals in Tamiya X-22 Gloss cut with Mr. Color 400 Self Leveling Thinner 1:1. Just amazing stuff. Then I used a home made enamel base wash of a generic oil Lamp Black thinned with Turpenoid, and gave the entire aircraft a coating of it. After it had dried for 10 min or so, I wiped off 90% of it with a damp cotton cloth making sure that I went very easy over any panel lines and always at a 45 degree or greater angle. this way I stood a better chance of not sucking up the panel line wash.

This accomplished two weathering phases. 1st as I said, all the panel lines received a wash, and since they're so shallow and petite, black worked perfectly. The 2nd weathering phase was to create a slight oxidation look to the paint which was well maintained, but if it flew, it had some wear and tear to it. the result is just enough to knock down the new paint look.

I let this cure for a good 48 hrs., then I applied a Matt clear coat using Testors Dullcoat cut with Mr. Color 400 Self Leveling Thinner but at a 2:3 ratio. I applied a tack coat, then two wet coats, and let it dry for 24 hrs. Then I very lightly rubbed down the surface with a #4000 Micro Mesh pad and plenty of water. The surface is now silky smooth, and the decals look more like the were painted on.


I removed the windscreen masks and the cockpit masks, glued on the wing tip tanks, that will need a touch of adjusting, and then took some pictures.


Gotta say that she's finally starting to really look the part of a Texas 111 FIS ANG T-33A.
















Joel

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Posted: Tuesday, May 15, 2018 - 06:56 PM UTC

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Hi Joel glad I could make your day my friend!

The biggest pressure with commission builds is completing them in a timely fashion as I can't fuss over them like I can with my usual builds. The guy I'm working for is thrilled with how I build models and leaves it up to me just how and what I do with them so no pressure in that respect (except the pressure I usually put on myself to make a quality build).

I'm working on the Tornado at present and gathering info on the Strike Eagle. The conformal fuel tanks have changed the lines of the bird quite a bit which I didn't realise till now. The Tamiya kit is something I wouldn't have bought myself as the price tag here is close to 300 NZD new and my significant other would lay waste to my sorry butt if I did! I have the Revell rendition ($55 NZD second hand) to build at some point which I'll put in a build log when I do. The other plus for commission builds is I don't generally put them up on Aeroscale.

As a last point your build of the T-33 has me itching to build the kit myself ...... a prop guy like me turning into a jet jock go figure!



Chris,

just once I'd love to get a commission build.

As for a prop guy slowly turning into jet Jock, well, I seem to be right behind you in the line.

Joel
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Posted: Tuesday, May 15, 2018 - 01:38 AM UTC
Hi Joel glad I could make your day my friend!

The biggest pressure with commission builds is completing them in a timely fashion as I can't fuss over them like I can with my usual builds. The guy I'm working for is thrilled with how I build models and leaves it up to me just how and what I do with them so no pressure in that respect (except the pressure I usually put on myself to make a quality build).

I'm working on the Tornado at present and gathering info on the Strike Eagle. The conformal fuel tanks have changed the lines of the bird quite a bit which I didn't realise till now. The Tamiya kit is something I wouldn't have bought myself as the price tag here is close to 300 NZD new and my significant other would lay waste to my sorry butt if I did! I have the Revell rendition ($55 NZD second hand) to build at some point which I'll put in a build log when I do. The other plus for commission builds is I don't generally put them up on Aeroscale.

As a last point your build of the T-33 has me itching to build the kit myself ...... a prop guy like me turning into a jet jock go figure!
Joel_W
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Posted: Monday, May 14, 2018 - 08:39 PM UTC

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I can finally see the light at the end of the tunnel as what I thought was going to be a real easy and quick build, is taking a lot longer.


I hear that. I'm oh so close with my I-16, and trying not to stuff it up at the last stage.
All the best.



Spud,
Close seems to cause me more issues and screw ups then almost anything else, as my mind is slowly starting to focus on my next build. I have a hard fast golden rule to only work on one build at a time, and never put it down with the intention to come back to it at a later date. If I put it down, then I'm on R&R till I pick it up again, or it takes a one way trip to the recycling center. I just never learned how to focus on two or more builds as the same time. I will open the box to see what I need for the planned build so everything is here at the start with no surprises, and do my research, but that's it.

Joel