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md72
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Posted: Thursday, June 14, 2018 - 07:54 AM UTC
@ Thomas, looks good to me. Now I just gotta earn it.
MichaelSatin
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Posted: Saturday, June 16, 2018 - 02:47 AM UTC
Hmmm... Which one for this campaign:


Already in the stash.

Or:


An all time fave and on it's way from Sprue Brothers as a Father's Day giftie.

Decisions, decisions. Time will tell, I suppose (after I get a couple of other projects out of the way).

Michael
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Posted: Saturday, June 16, 2018 - 10:13 AM UTC
Michael, you do have a problem. I could not make that decision.

Bob
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Posted: Friday, June 22, 2018 - 01:34 PM UTC
Michael,

for me is easy...... KFIR!!!!

Welcome aboard Carlos!!!! I will follow your F-1!!!!
MichaelSatin
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Posted: Saturday, June 23, 2018 - 01:48 AM UTC

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Michael,

for me is easy...... KFIR!!!!

Welcome aboard Carlos!!!! I will follow your F-1!!!!



Kind of thought that's the way you'd vote, Jose! Just to be clear, though; if I do the Kfir, it will be Israeli.

I have both kits safely in the stash now, just need to finish up a couple of other projects that are almost done, and then the decision will have to be made.

Michael
md72
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Posted: Saturday, June 23, 2018 - 02:15 AM UTC
Sounds like Kfir will be well represented in this campaign. I'm planning on the USN adversary flavor.
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Posted: Monday, June 25, 2018 - 08:40 AM UTC

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Sounds like Kfir will be well represented in this campaign. I'm planning on the USN adversary flavor.



Mark,

What kit will you be building?

Michael
md72
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Posted: Monday, June 25, 2018 - 08:56 AM UTC
Testors F-21 Adversary rebox of the Italeri (ESCI?) kit. To save costs, they only reproduced 1/3 of the decals.
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Posted: Monday, June 25, 2018 - 09:52 AM UTC
The 1/72 kit? I think that's original Italeri. The Italeri 1/48 kit came from Esci, but I think the 1/72 kit is all theirs.

Should be fun!

Michael
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Posted: Monday, June 25, 2018 - 10:19 AM UTC
I hope it's fun. Never done an aggressor camo and the odd decals have you painting to fill in a white spot on a decal??
MichaelSatin
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Posted: Monday, June 25, 2018 - 10:49 AM UTC

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I hope it's fun. Never done an aggressor camo and the odd decals have you painting to fill in a white spot on a decal??



That's weird! Wonder what decal that would be? Well, good luck, my friend!

Michael
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Posted: Monday, June 25, 2018 - 10:57 AM UTC
Will this work?
https://www.scalemates.com/products/img/1/0/5/134105-11185-pristine.jpg
Well, if it worked, there is a "No Step" stencil on what I guess is a speed brake. On the bottom of the A/C that shape calls out for white paint.
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Posted: Monday, June 25, 2018 - 12:42 PM UTC

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Will this work?
https://www.scalemates.com/products/img/1/0/5/134105-11185-pristine.jpg
Well, if it worked, there is a "No Step" stencil on what I guess is a speed brake. On the bottom of the A/C that shape calls out for white paint.



Well, those are indeed speed brakes. I have the IsraDecal sheet for U.S., etc. Kfirs and it shows the Navy/Marine aircraft had the lower brakes in white with red borders. So, assuming the decal is a red border, that should be correct.

We probably ought to stop hijacking this thread with Kfir discussion. But I'm looking forward to your model!

Michael
md72
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Posted: Monday, June 25, 2018 - 02:22 PM UTC
one last time, I ought to read more closely, the art shows a paint callout for the brake, but the decals clearly have the white printed in.

MichaelSatin
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Posted: Tuesday, June 26, 2018 - 12:39 AM UTC
Guessing that's a combination of instructions from one source and decals from another. I don't expect you have to paint it white if it already has white decal (unless they know their white decal is translucent.) That's what happens when one company reboxes another company's kit, I suppose.

Michael
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Posted: Tuesday, June 26, 2018 - 01:36 PM UTC
Hi

The Italeri kit of the Kfir in 1/72 have a lot of inacuraccies. I have one in the stash
PasiAhopelto
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Posted: Sunday, July 01, 2018 - 12:30 AM UTC
I think I've cleared the biggest obstacle of the Kitty Hawk MiG-25:



Rear fuselage box was bent sideways, and used steam and thick gloves to bend it symmetrical (when viewed from front). Also top plate was bent, but to a lesser degree. Now air intakes fit fine, engines are installed and also nose halves seem to fit quite nicely. Not Tamiya-nicely, but in a way that doesn't require loads of sanding.

Rear fuselage box is about 1.5 mm wider than cockpit and air intakes, so I deviated from instructions and glued in intakes first. It's easier to hide the extra between intakes and cockpit than it's on very visible fuselage sides. That's also why I've removed the three large locator pins.
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Posted: Friday, July 13, 2018 - 10:04 PM UTC
Mark, looking forward to the kfir

Pasi, I love mig25, build is looking great. I took that model off my wish-list after I watched a build review, I don't think I have enough skills or patience for it.

A small update of my build. I have finished the interior and assembly of my Mirage F.1

I love the model and even when fit is not perfect and I had to use putty nearly everywhere, nothing was particularly challenging. I an really enjoying the build.

A couple of images with assembly finished:





Carlos
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Posted: Sunday, July 22, 2018 - 02:21 AM UTC
Hi again!

I am slowly progressing through the build. I have done painting and decals. Things were going well until I went a bit too heavy with the panel line oil wash, and washed away some on the paint.

I am trying to touch up here and there but here is an update after the panel line oil wash.







Almost there,

Carlos
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Posted: Tuesday, July 24, 2018 - 02:46 AM UTC
Looking good, Carlos!

I've decided on the AMK 1/48 Kfir. Here are the start pics:





And here's the pre-painting done:



This one'll be out of the box except for a stray resin ejection seat I found in the spares box.

Will need to do some touch up on the instrument panel, but I think the decals look good:



Michael
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Posted: Thursday, July 26, 2018 - 06:32 AM UTC
Thanks Michael, I will be following your Kfir.

I am done now with my Mirage F.1.

Several small mistakes but I am really pleased with how it looks and the weathering.

Next time I will use more masking tape to avoid over spraying, I had to repaint lots, and I will use more gloss varnish, I washed away the main colours with the panel line wash.





See you around, I am heading to the RAF campaign...

Carlos
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Posted: Monday, July 30, 2018 - 07:24 AM UTC
The Foxbat had one more trap hiding (wing tips), and I just couldn't get them right.

So switching to MiG-21Bis in Finnish Air Force. MiG-21Bis was last major variant of the 21 family, and was produced from 1972 onwards. Finland bought 26 of them in 1978 and they were retired in 1998.

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Posted: Saturday, August 04, 2018 - 03:15 AM UTC
Hi all,
I got a pair of kit to this campaign.


I think MiG-23 of Taniya (?) is a faked product of Tamiya.
Cheers,
K.
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Posted: Saturday, August 04, 2018 - 03:26 AM UTC

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I think MiG-23 of Taniya (?) is a faked product of Tamiya.
Cheers,
K.



Those instructions have a definite Hasegawa-like look to me.

Michael
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Posted: Monday, August 13, 2018 - 01:05 PM UTC
Fuselage closed up on the AMK 1/48 Kfir:





And wings added:





I was a little disappointed to find no intake trunking, but given how close the intakes fit, you really couldn't see anything anyway.

Onward and upward!

Michael