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Hudson29
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Posted: Tuesday, April 16, 2019 - 05:34 AM UTC
I finally finished the Fishpot:











These pics have been uploaded to the gallery.

I will probably do the missiles & fuel tanks later to try polishing the plastic in preparation for another go at the natural metal finish. This kit will continue in its role as teacher.

Thanks to everyone who participated in this campaign for the encouragement & suggestions and thanks to our fearless leaders for the extra support.
Hudson29
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Posted: Tuesday, April 16, 2019 - 05:26 AM UTC
Chris, thanks for the idea about using tape & toothpaste. It it did help improve the look & I think further work with other polishes might make it even better. This project is at least as much "lesson" as it is "model."
c4willy
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Posted: Thursday, April 11, 2019 - 09:21 AM UTC
Awesome work Paul! The over spray while visible is not too bad, as a suggestion try masking the raised painted parts of the canopy and use a little tooth paste on a cotton bud (uh sorry Q-tip for you Americans) to try and polish out the paint or alternatively Tamiya does make a polishing compound although I would imagine it's not cheap.
Hudson29
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Posted: Thursday, April 11, 2019 - 06:29 AM UTC
The last four pics show the results of the Montex masks lifting and allowing the paint to mar the clear areas. I'm not sure what is to be done about this.
Hudson29
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Posted: Thursday, April 11, 2019 - 06:26 AM UTC
More work done on the Fishpot. I painted the wheel well with an Imperial Japanese Navy Kure grey. The only guide I had here was some online photos of derelict/museum examples and this color looked close. I used a water based wash to highlight detail and add a weather streaked look.













Final assembly next!
Hudson29
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Posted: Monday, April 08, 2019 - 08:58 AM UTC
Yes, acrylics would be a blessing in that case. I had two lacquers & an enamel & do not know when the lifting occurred. Too bad as the masks fit well.

A 177 has a LOT of panels to mask. A good mask set would be worth investing in!
c4willy
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Posted: Monday, April 08, 2019 - 08:18 AM UTC
Yeah I know that feeling all to well Paul, I've had more than my fair share of teaching builds LOL. I've also struck lifting issues with Montex masks just recently on my He 177. I'm going to eschew the black masks as they seem to be to stiff for complex curves/angles and eventually peel back even after burnishing them to get them to stick down. I'm going to get a set of paper tape masks to replace them and try to re-mediate the over spray. Fortunately for me the RLM66 is an acrylic and should remove quite easily.
Hudson29
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Posted: Monday, April 08, 2019 - 05:17 AM UTC
I'm going to finish this Su-9 Fishpot even if it is late. The third paint job in as many days seems to be unstable. Even after several days drying time, the model felt slightly tacky and the paint still has the aroma of outgassing.

The decals were reluctant to move once slid into the model over a bed of Micro-Set. Once burnished down there was no repositioning possible so some of them are off kilter slightly.

Using Kyrlon clear to match the paint, I shot a test strip and all looked well. Next, I shot the gear doors and the paint wrinkled. Yikes! What next? I set them aside to get well dried and will sand them down tonight & repaint. BTW, I checked the test panel & it too acted the same way. I shouda just waited a bit longer before painting those gear doors . . .

What's next? Some water based washes and final assembly followed by trying to rectify the overspray on the canopy that happened after the Montex masks lifted & I did not notice.

There are a lot of lessons here, too many for one build.





MichaelSatin
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Posted: Tuesday, April 02, 2019 - 12:54 AM UTC
This campaign is now closed. Congrats to all who finished and thank you to all who participated! Ribbons have been awarded, so if you didn't get one and think you should have, let me know.

Michael
Hudson29
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Posted: Monday, April 01, 2019 - 09:39 AM UTC
Thanks Martin for the tip about the Tamiya polishing cloths. I have not heard of them before but will see if I can order some. I did not polish the whole model, only areas where I had worked. Those came out pretty nice.

I have been building armor since I came back to modeling & the techniques I had learned building models like a 1943 T-34 do not all work on a 1960 Sukhoi . . .

I shot a third coat of paint this morning out of a Krylon rattle can. This covered much better and looks reasonably good. Decals Tuesday then a clear coat & washes. I'll finish it and it will be a step toward the next natural metal project. I have a kit of the Firebar that looks like fun down the road.
Gartik61
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Jihocesky Kraj, Czech Republic
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Posted: Monday, April 01, 2019 - 07:44 AM UTC
Hi Paul, looks like a surface defect. Did you polish surfacer before silver paint? You can use Tamiya polishing cloths.
Hudson29
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Posted: Monday, April 01, 2019 - 04:08 AM UTC
I didn't make it. Modeling luck was not with me and this Fishpot will not be finished today.

Saturday I shot the model with the MRP Duraluminum paint through the airbrush. The brush worked well & the paint applied well but the results were not good. In areas where I had worked the seams with CA glue and sanded & polished them the finish looks good. Everywhere else was mixed. I had not expected the raw unpolished plastic to be the issue. Here is what it looked like:



Sunday I shot it with Tamiya AL paint out of a rattle can. It was a bit better but still no joy:



Today I will shoot the model a third time with Krylon metallic silver. Even though I have missed the deadline, I'll finish this Sukhoi. It has been an education and that has been worth something.
Gartik61
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Posted: Monday, April 01, 2019 - 03:20 AM UTC
I forgot, Russians :-D 😉😀🤐 Superb build.
Kanguroo
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Posted: Monday, April 01, 2019 - 02:50 AM UTC

Quoted Text

Thanks "K" . Yours is imazing too. Clean and precize. But, realy has closed wing with AM? ;-)


A Su-33UB and a Su-33 on the Russian aircraft carrier.


Thank so much, Martin and Carlos for your kind words.
Torpon
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Posted: Sunday, March 31, 2019 - 09:13 PM UTC
K., that is a great looking model. Amazing painting and weathering. Congratulations.
Gartik61
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Posted: Sunday, March 31, 2019 - 03:37 AM UTC
Thanks "K" . Yours is imazing too. Clean and precize. But, realy has closed wing with AM? ;-)
Kanguroo
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Posted: Sunday, March 31, 2019 - 02:20 AM UTC
Hi everyone,
Martin Benes (Gartik61): I feel a cold wind flowing in my eyes.

I had done my Su-33UB in 1/72 scale.





Thanks all for this great air campaign.
Regards,
K.
Gartik61
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Posted: Friday, March 29, 2019 - 01:23 PM UTC
Well done Paul and good luck Im looking forward to finished Su.
Hudson29
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Posted: Friday, March 29, 2019 - 12:26 PM UTC
I'm getting close and if all goes well I stand a chance of completing before the deadline. Tonight I'll install the canopy & do some clean up of glued joints from last night. Then it will be masking, something I'm always nervous about. With luck the aluminum MRP finish will go on Saturday and the decals & clear coat Sunday. I'll still need to do final assembly so I hope the clear dries quickly.

Here are some pics of the finished cockpit, the first one without the shroud over the do-dads in front of the instrument panel:







These two sho the Fishpot speared and ready to tonights work:





I'm crossing my fingers for a bit of modeling luck . . .
john41492
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Malacca, Malaysia
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Posted: Friday, March 29, 2019 - 12:56 AM UTC
Martin,

Nice job! Love the weathering effect!

Paul,

Yours is coming together, and looks great!
Gartik61
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Posted: Thursday, March 28, 2019 - 11:23 PM UTC
Thanks Carlos, my pleasure you like it.
Torpon
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Posted: Thursday, March 28, 2019 - 11:16 PM UTC
Martin, that is amazing! Everything looks great, I love particularly the subtle weathering and the snowy airfield. Thanks for sharing.
Gartik61
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Posted: Thursday, March 28, 2019 - 08:29 AM UTC
Under side - Engines: HGW Possitive rivets was used


Weathering



Snowing



Base:Grass growing

Snowing the Base:


DONE...................................

More pic of finished plane are in Campain galery
Gartik61
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Posted: Wednesday, March 27, 2019 - 06:42 AM UTC
Hi Paul, thank you. The final photos are in Gallery now. About the stencils: This specific stencils will released soon. You will find, not only, them on www.miryoku.cz. Write me PM, I will send you more information, when you are interested in. ;-) We were looking for material more than 1 year. Is semitransparent, glue is strong not much but strong to prevent under spraying. This one copying survace excelent.
Hudson29
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Posted: Wednesday, March 27, 2019 - 06:22 AM UTC
Martin - this is all looking very nice! Your stencils are amazing. Are they a commercial product? Do they stick to the surface? I look forward to seeing more of this project.