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tread_geek
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Posted: Friday, March 29, 2019 - 02:43 AM UTC
[b]@john41492(John),


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Jan, nice job on the vampire! Like it a lot!
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Thanks for commenting and when I first got the Vampire as a gift I was a little indifferent about it but it does seem to grow on one after a while. It's sort of like the old VW Beatles in that sense!

Cheers,
--Jan
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Posted: Friday, March 29, 2019 - 12:59 AM UTC
Jan, nice job on the vampire! Like it a lot!

Richard, really like your Rapide. Unusual subject, and well done. Hopefully you can see a bit of the interior work when done!
tread_geek
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Posted: Thursday, March 28, 2019 - 07:55 AM UTC

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Nope, mine wasn't the starter set.



Well we'll just leave it as there were a number of versions of this kit.


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I do remember taking a lot of time to fine tune the tailboom to wing joint, but I only got the center section of the tail feathers installed.



The one boom to upper wing joint was a bear. I had to do a fair amount of sanding to get it to sit level with its mate. Not meaning to scare anyone from this kit but those tailplane segments all had quite loose and sloppy fits. That's why I say that it would be a nightmare to assemble that section as the instructions suggest.

Cheers,
--Jan
md72
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Posted: Thursday, March 28, 2019 - 07:37 AM UTC
Nope, mine wasn't the starter set. Just the kit with two sets of markings, one for an inservice trainer (from the 50's?) and some sort of memorial flight, no Swedish markings. I do remember taking a lot of time to fine tune the tailboom to wing joint, but I only got the center section of the tail feathers installed.
tread_geek
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Posted: Thursday, March 28, 2019 - 06:32 AM UTC

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.... I must have had the A55204 flavor.



@(md72) Mark,

The kit number you quote here is for the "Starter Set" version but ideally should be the same 'plastic' as mine but with different decals. From What I gather there appear to be four or five two seater boxings each with unique decals.


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Well, there's something about the kit's design, that the MLG struts have to be added early on.



There are some interesting engineering features to these later versions and yes you must put on the struts during assembly of the tail booms. In fact you are supposed to assemble the entire tail section(s) before adding it to the main upper wing section! I fear I have only followed the instructions where it looked logical. I changed quite a few parts of the assembly process order to a way that made more sense. Airfix's instructions in this case aren't as bad as some Dragon kit ones but I personally feel they weren't properly thought out.

Cheers,
Jan

EDIT: Is there ever such a thing as too many clamps when building a plane?

md72
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Posted: Thursday, March 28, 2019 - 04:49 AM UTC
AH, it was The Great Buildoff Campaign of 2014. I must have had the A55204 flavor.
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Posted: Thursday, March 28, 2019 - 04:40 AM UTC
Well, there's something about the kit's design, that the MLG struts have to be added early on. So that's where I was a long time ago, IIRC I've got the red box release without the Swedish options. I started as part of an Aeroscale group build, "Ultimate Build Off" or some such back in 2012-2013.
tread_geek
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Posted: Thursday, March 28, 2019 - 03:52 AM UTC
I guess that some progress is better than no progress! Tail assembly is complete except for a couple of what I figure are counterweights on the centre section bottom. The tail winglets had a very loose and sloppy fit and had to be propped up while they dried. Next up will the the main wing bottom pieces. I test fit them but only the port side fit pretty well. Both pieces were a bit warped but the starboard one will need some surgery to fit well.

Cheers,
Jan





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Posted: Monday, March 25, 2019 - 01:20 PM UTC

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Well, Jan, I think that you are only 1 set of landing gear ahead of me, but mine's been sitting idle since 2014... I hate to lose my comment to do the research, but whose kit is this? I was building the Airfix T.10 when I moved.



@(md72) Mark,

My Vampire has all the landing gear struts in place. its just the main wheel parts are still to be added. If you could see the box, this is the newer or newest release of the T-11/J-28C DH Vampire by Airfix kit AO2058A.

Cheers,
Jan
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Posted: Monday, March 25, 2019 - 09:25 AM UTC
Well, Jan, I think that you are only 1 set of landing gear ahead of me, but mine's been sitting idle since 2014... I hate to lose my comment to do the research, but whose kit is this? I was building the Airfix T.10 when I moved.
tread_geek
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Posted: Monday, March 25, 2019 - 08:27 AM UTC
Well gang it was a dirty, nasty, dragged out fight but I finally beat the tail assembly into submission and, the instruction method probably wouldn't have worked. As an added bonus I've started on the landing gear. Please note in the first two images the nose down orientation. Guess I squeezed in enough weight in the nose?







Just a few minor items to add to the tail section and then I'll work on the landing gear doors.

Cheers,
Jan
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Posted: Sunday, March 24, 2019 - 03:06 AM UTC

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Jan, your Vampire is looking really nice. I like the panel line detail. Just wish that I could find one in 1/48.
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Thank you Bob and I believe there are a few 1/48 Vampires out there but not sure if any two seaters are still made.

Now with my Vampire some more small progress. The Port tail boom is now cemented in place and after what feels like hundreds of tries, Ive dry fit the Starboard boom and the tail centrepiece. The wooden blocks are to see how it will sit on the main gear struts and if there was enough weight in the nose. Obviously the weighting in the nose proved sufficient.







Now the question remains, is the tail centrepiece appropriately level and ready for gluing?

Cheers,
--jan
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Posted: Thursday, March 21, 2019 - 07:07 AM UTC
Jan, your Vampire is looking really nice. I like the panel line detail. Just wish that I could find one in 1/48.

Richard, I cannot make out if you Rapide has flying wires, but I cannot see with out my magnifying hood. Cannot wait to see some color on her.

Bob
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Posted: Thursday, March 21, 2019 - 06:48 AM UTC
Well not a lot of progress but some is better than none I guess. The upper wing of the Vampire is now officially glued in place (...wonder what 'glued unofficially' would be...). When I tried dry fitting the tail booms they didn't sit equal vertically so I had to spend time using needle files on both the booms and the openings in the upper wing where they reside. Here are a few images of the booms dry fitted.







Oh, forgot to mention that I had to fix the main landing gear struts to the booms as it won't be easily possible after the booms are glued in place. You'll note that the aircraft easily sits node down on the main undercarriage struts so I guess I got enough weight in the nose! Now to figure out how to attach the tail piece between the two booms and have everything line up!

Cheers,
--Jan
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Posted: Monday, March 18, 2019 - 07:41 AM UTC
@(tinbanger) Richard,

Nice progress on your bird and I like what you did with the interior that you showed earlier. We'll know its there but I wonder how much one might see through the windows?

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In my case I managed to squeeze in one more sinker weight in the nose, give all the weights one last coating of glue and finally had the nerve to seal up the forward fuselage. Front of the intakes are attached as is the intake manifold assembly, cockpit and engine exhaust. Ive also installed the forward landing gear bay and cannon cover plate.



You may notice in the image above and the next image that I spent some time smoothing out the seams in the nose section.



If you notice the seam it's actually a bit of staining from when I sprayed the cockpit interior with flat black. If one runs the end of a pin or strider lightly across the seam it feels totally smooth. The final image shows the fuselage assembly from the rear and work done on the upper seam lines.



Cheers,
Jan
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Posted: Friday, March 15, 2019 - 09:50 AM UTC
Almost ready to prime:-



md72
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Posted: Wednesday, March 13, 2019 - 09:58 AM UTC
Sorry about the silence on my part, I've been away from the bench for nearly 2 weeks now (really away, like 5000 miles). And I've got at least 3 campaigns in front of this one. I can't wait to get home and get back to work.
tread_geek
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Posted: Wednesday, March 13, 2019 - 07:53 AM UTC
WOW, hello gang and nice seeing some action here! Now I don't feel so lonely that it's only Bob and I.

I've been agonizing about the nose weight for a few days now. Is there enough and where could I place more even if I wanted? SO "damn the torpedoes and full speed ahead", oops wrong site? I glued the cockpit together, glued it into the port fuselage halve with as many sinkers as could fit in the nose area and glued up the fuselage halves..

Next I dry fit the intake ductwork into the body and dry fit the wings. I took a round hobby knife handle and placed the Vampire so that the handle rested under where the main landing gear will be located. With one tailboom dry fit the nose dropped like the proverbial stone.



Even when the second tailboom and tailplane in place there should be enough weight so it's not a tail sitter. After gluing up the intake manifold pieces and adjust its fit the ductwork was glued in place.







Next I can start on the tailboom/wing pieces and start making this thing look like a plane.

Cheers,
Jan
Bigrip74
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Posted: Monday, March 11, 2019 - 02:09 PM UTC
Welcome J, I built that kit in the past and was happy with the outcome.

Bob
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Posted: Monday, March 11, 2019 - 01:35 PM UTC
I just joined the campaign, have not build anything in a few years. Found this simple kit, ICM Yak-7V trainer, 1:48. Should be simple enough to build after such a long hiatus.


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tinbanger
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Posted: Monday, March 11, 2019 - 08:12 AM UTC

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Richard, she is looking nice. I did not think there was that much room for personnel.

Bob



Hi Bob
The only information I could find mentions six trainees and Rx/Tx radios so I came up with my interior.
Bigrip74
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Posted: Monday, March 11, 2019 - 05:24 AM UTC
Richard, she is looking nice. I did not think there was that much room for personnel.

Bob
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Posted: Monday, March 11, 2019 - 05:21 AM UTC
Here is an update of my build:-





Bigrip74
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Posted: Sunday, March 10, 2019 - 07:49 PM UTC
John, you are welcome. I am glad I was able to post photos that showed what you needed. As for the instructions, I thought that you may have needed a copy. I have mine.

I will watch your progress to see how you deal with the landing gear.

Bob