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ICM: Fordson WOT 6
CMOT
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Posted: Wednesday, February 06, 2019 - 04:50 AM UTC


Darren Baker takes a look at the Fordson WOT 6 WW2 British Truck by ICM in 1/35th scale.

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If you have comments or questions please post them here.

Thanks!
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Posted: Wednesday, February 06, 2019 - 05:26 AM UTC
Thanks for the review
Kit is on the wishlist, maybe I will treat myself for Valentines day ....
/ Robin
M4A1Sherman
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Posted: Wednesday, February 06, 2019 - 07:31 PM UTC

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Darren Baker takes a look at the Fordson WOT 6 WW2 British Truck by ICM in 1/35th scale.

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If you have comments or questions please post them here.

Thanks!



Thanks, Darren!

THIS is GREAT! I LOVE SOFT-SKINS!!! I'd love to see a series of 1/35 kits of, (and based on), the WWII British Ford WOT 2, a series of the Morris Commercial 15 CWT and some kits based on the Chevrolet C60-series Lorries...

Comments..?
simonking
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Posted: Wednesday, February 06, 2019 - 08:02 PM UTC
You have made no reference to the giant elephant in the room with this model.

Despite advice offered when first announced, ICM have based their model on a restored example with an empty Machinery type body rather than a GS body, which is completely different.

It is therefore neither fish nor fowl. To be correct you either need to add all the machinery into the specialised bodywork or scratchbuild a completely new GS type body.

A stupid mistake on the part of ICM, down simply to a lack of research.

Sk
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Posted: Thursday, February 07, 2019 - 07:16 AM UTC
Sorry Simon I only had google searches to provide reference and had not looked at the news article.
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Posted: Thursday, February 07, 2019 - 08:07 AM UTC
I am very happy with an all plastic WOT6. I find it a purposeful but somehow also beautiful truck. It is a shame the bed is wrong, I will wait and see If ICM comes with further variants of the WOT6. A WOT8 has already been announced.
M4A1Sherman
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Posted: Thursday, February 07, 2019 - 10:02 AM UTC

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You have made no reference to the giant elephant in the room with this model.

Despite advice offered when first announced, ICM have based their model on a restored example with an empty Machinery type body rather than a GS body, which is completely different.

It is therefore neither fish nor fowl. To be correct you either need to add all the machinery into the specialised bodywork or scratchbuild a completely new GS type body.

A stupid mistake on the part of ICM, down simply to a lack of research.

Sk



EAGLE EYES!!! GREAT CALL on this mistake!!!

Could it be possible that ICM simply misunderstood this aforementioned "advice"..? I'm not arguing your point at all; rather, I'm only saying that "stranger things have happened before"...

Let's HOPE that ICM will correct this error...

I would STILL welcome PLASTIC kits FROM ANY MANUFACTURER of the vehicles I mentioned above:

Ford WOT 2-series
Morris Commercial 15cwt-series
Chevrolet C60-series


RobinNilsson
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Posted: Thursday, February 07, 2019 - 10:13 AM UTC
One option, a sad W.O.T. 6 which has had all the equipment removed


or with the canvas closed all around


or wait for the machinery parts to turn up from aftermarketers or even ICM

This offering is certainly a LOT closer to a complete W.O.T. 6 machinery truck than no kit at all.

Now I will sit back, relax and wait for an M3 Lee (the US version of course) complete with interior et.c. and then maybe an M8 HMC et.c.
/ Robin
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Posted: Thursday, February 07, 2019 - 10:53 PM UTC

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One option, a sad W.O.T. 6 which has had all the equipment removed


or with the canvas closed all around


or wait for the machinery parts to turn up from aftermarketers or even ICM

This offering is certainly a LOT closer to a complete W.O.T. 6 machinery truck than no kit at all.

Now I will sit back, relax and wait for an M3 Lee (the US version of course) complete with interior et.c. and then maybe an M8 HMC et.c.
/ Robin



Hi, Robin!

I'm not holding my breath for MINIART's M3 Lee (early), US VERSION with Interior- ALL of the NON-US versions will very likely be released BEFORE we, (if EVER) see the US-versions. If MINIART deigns to release the US versions before any of the others, I will be very surprised and I will be MOST HAPPY TO EAT MY OWN WORDS...

As to a PROPER M8 HMC IN PLASTIC, I've given up hope of EVER seeing one of those- After all, there are still SO MANY Panthers and Tigers to be released before we EVER see an M8 HMC.

Yes, there is the TMD resin M8 Conversion kit, (which I built for my own personal collection), but not everyone likes resin and PE, or would want to tackle such an extensive project...

DITTO for a PROPER M10-series, M36, or an M18...
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Posted: Friday, February 08, 2019 - 11:16 PM UTC
Link to original product announcement and lengthy discussion of available machine tools to fill same.

"ICM: War Office Truck 6"

https://www.armorama.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=SquawkBox&file=index&req=viewtopic&topic_id=273307
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Posted: Saturday, February 09, 2019 - 09:17 PM UTC

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You have made no reference to the giant elephant in the room with this model.

Despite advice offered when first announced, ICM have based their model on a restored example with an empty Machinery type body rather than a GS body, which is completely different.

It is therefore neither fish nor fowl. To be correct you either need to add all the machinery into the specialised bodywork or scratchbuild a completely new GS type body.

A stupid mistake on the part of ICM, down simply to a lack of research.

Sk



Not all trucks were GS trucks & ICM don't claim this one to be so. Before ranting that ICM have got it wrong did you ever stop to think the machinery version was intended? Just because it doesn't fulfill your needs 100% don't spoil it for the rest. Attitudes like that will ultimately result in manufacturers walking away from what they perceive as an ungrateful bunch of moaners & we'd soon be back to no new British/Commonwealth softskins.

This one suits me, and I suspect many others, fine

Embrace diversity!

165thspc
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Posted: Sunday, February 10, 2019 - 12:53 AM UTC
Peter I gotta go with Simon and Darren on this one.

If the manufacture is going to go with this particular prototype they either need to offer the full machine tool interior or at the very least a fully enclosed canvas top to hide the fact there is no workshop interior.

The model looks very well done. I look forward to some after market provider rounding out the remainder of this kit.

Actually, at one point years ago I even tried to convert the old Porte kit to make this truck but that enclosed cab construction just did not work out for me.


p.s. ICM has chosen to intermix cab and frame parts with the rear body parts in their sprue layout. It is therefore unlikely that they plan a series of trucks based on this tooling.
165thspc
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Posted: Sunday, February 10, 2019 - 03:39 AM UTC
A photo I happened to have in my personal collection:
(I assume this to be the General Service body here.)

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Posted: Sunday, February 10, 2019 - 09:47 PM UTC

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Not all trucks were GS trucks & ICM don't claim this one to be so. Before ranting that ICM have got it wrong did you ever stop to think the machinery version was intended? Just because it doesn't fulfill your needs 100% don't spoil it for the rest. Attitudes like that will ultimately result in manufacturers walking away from what they perceive as an ungrateful bunch of moaners & we'd soon be back to no new British/Commonwealth softskins.

This one suits me, and I suspect many others, fine

Embrace diversity!



I'm with Simon, Daren and all the rest who comment the kits errors in general. I like to be informed and this is my right, if you prefer to live in the dark this is your right. And yes, the WOT8 kit body is machinery body and nothing else. Nothing to wonder ICM are silent, usually they don't know what they have done.
For your information only, ICM are notorious with their bad research and up to date it leaded to a bunch of wrong softskin kits. I have no wish to support them with my money, or to stay silent in the name of the so-called "political correctness". Your attitude will lead to even more wrong kits for sure, and they are enough around, not necessary by ICM only.
Also, when I'll feel the urge to embrace diversity, I'll most probably switch to Modelcollect walking tanks. But when it comes to a kit of a subject that really existed, I prefer to see it as it was in the real life. In this case, WOT6 with empty GS body, or WOT6 machinery body with equipment.
End of the rant.

@ Michael Koenig: That medical lorry passing Volturno is WOT8.
165thspc
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Posted: Monday, February 11, 2019 - 05:15 AM UTC
Ilian I am in agreement with you on the question of accuracy but please help the rest of us out who are trying to learn the body types.

You say that the truck I show is a WOT8 - does that translate into that being a General Service style body???? (Yes, my intent was to show a General Service body in the photograph.)

Is there an online guide you could send us to that would define these body types for us????
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Posted: Monday, February 11, 2019 - 08:16 AM UTC
Hi Michael,
The difference is that WOT8 is 1.5-tonner (30cwt in British class nomenclature) and WOT6 is 3-tonner, the wheelbase of the latter is longer (143,5 inches against 118 inches of WOT8). The designations have nothing to do with the body types.
With WOT8 it is easy, all they were GS trucks ("general service"). The Russians converted some received by Lend-Lease to rocket launchers but now we're talking about their British use.
With WOT6 the situation with the bodies isn't that simple but I'll try, for I'm not aware of any online help on the subject.
The GS body was most used, perhaps. It has simple side boards and only the tailgate was dropable.
There are several "Machinery Lorry" types on WOT6 chassis but they are externally the same and differ in the equipment only, save the single van type machinery body. The open machinery body was similar to GS body but still different in many details, it is also longer. It has dropable side boards and they have also a foldable section, to form additional bench when dropped (with two vices each side permanently fixed there). Only the central section of the tailgate was dropable, to form an access door with ladder attached.
These two bodies are most important here, in the ICM kit context.
There were also another bodies fitted to WOT6, here is the list (by Mike Conniford):



Some of them are illustrated on this compilation I made specially for you:



Note also where is the fuel tank on the GS truck and where it is on the rest chassis.

Probably it is worth to mention here also that the future WOT8 of ICM, as seen on the 3D render in their 2019 catalog, isn't correct, being fitted with WOT6 cab. It differs in some details and it is quite obvious but it seems this also escapes the ICM "researchers".

HTH
Cheers!
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Posted: Sunday, July 14, 2019 - 11:53 PM UTC
Anyone done a build on this one yet???????

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