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Panther from 26th Panzer Div in Italy 1944
hj1985
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Posted: Tuesday, April 30, 2019 - 02:13 AM UTC
I would like to start a new project to depict a Panther with wounded crews from 26th Panzer Div from battle of Anzio in Italy.

My problem is based on what I read from the book "Sicily - Salerno - Anzio, January 1943-June 1944". The 26th Panzer Division is withdrawn from Anzio front from 4th March.

I already started painting the figures for the diorama.

I picked up figures as below:
https://www.super-hobby.com/products/Ticket-home.html
http://www.alpineminiatures.com/imagepages/35183.html

However, early March is still pretty cold in Italy.

Below is an example that they were still wearing overcoat.

Early March Photo
https://www.militaryimages.net/media/stug-iii-of-26-panzer-division-and-panthers-of-panzer-regiment-4.109182/

However, it was getting much warmer in late March.
March 22 Photo
http://ww2today.com/22-march-1944-relieving-the-gurkhas-in-front-of-the-monastery

So my question would be:

Did I pick up the right figure?
Did 26th Panzer Div participate any fight in between Mar-Jun 1944?






marcb
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Posted: Wednesday, May 01, 2019 - 04:56 AM UTC
Panzer Regiment 4 was still an independent unit during the Anzio battles.
I'd delete the figure with the camo smock, otherwise you're figures are fine.

What Panther kit will you use?
Removed by original poster on 05/01/19 - 23:17:24 (GMT).
hj1985
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Posted: Wednesday, May 01, 2019 - 11:17 AM UTC

Quoted Text

Panzer Regiment 4 was still an independent unit during the Anzio battles.
I'd delete the figure with the camo smock, otherwise you're figures are fine.

What Panther kit will you use?



Takom Panther A early type.

Is there anything wrong with the Camo guy?

If Regiment 4 was still an independent unit, what about their uni insignia?
marcb
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Posted: Wednesday, May 01, 2019 - 11:24 AM UTC
James,

Nothing wrong with the camo guy. The camo smocks were rare and I've never seen a pic of one in Italy, that's all.
Most Panthers didn't carry unit insignia, neither did PR 4. How will you do the zimmerit?
hj1985
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Posted: Wednesday, May 01, 2019 - 12:14 PM UTC

Quoted Text

James,

Nothing wrong with the camo guy. The camo smocks were rare and I've never seen a pic of one in Italy, that's all.
Most Panthers didn't carry unit insignia, neither did PR 4. How will you do the zimmerit?



Re: Italian campaign, I often see paratroopers with Camo, but not Heer personnel. Is there any record showing Heer units were using Camo smock?

Also re: the figure, do they dress more like in Spring or Autumn?

For zimmerit, I guess it would be the old school Putty Texturing with some "peel-off" effects.

marcb
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Posted: Friday, May 03, 2019 - 01:33 AM UTC
Have fun,

I used this zimm rake, as used in the Osprey Panther modelling book by Steve van Beveren, with great succes. For the small square pattern by MNH/ DB, the teeth should be 2,5 mm apart. I used a green scouring sponge to add roughness to the zimm.



hj1985
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Posted: Friday, May 03, 2019 - 02:21 AM UTC
Does anyone know if these two below were commonly seen in Italy 1944?

https://www.exter-company.com/en/Figures-scale-1-35/German-Tank-crew-Set-WWII.html?force_sid=8fnvd5r9mga4h226jijmspvil3&

https://www.exter-company.com/en/Figures-scale-1-35/German-Wehrmacht-Driver-of-Sd-Kfz-222.html?force_sid=8fnvd5r9mga4h226jijmspvil3&
HEINE-07
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Ohio, United States
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Posted: Wednesday, May 15, 2019 - 06:39 PM UTC
HEINE-07
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Ohio, United States
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Posted: Wednesday, May 15, 2019 - 07:20 PM UTC
HEINE-07
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Posted: Wednesday, May 15, 2019 - 07:54 PM UTC