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The Cost of War
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Posted: Wednesday, June 12, 2019 - 04:13 AM UTC
J, great vignette. It´s the sad side of war, but true. So sad that children pay for the stupidity of some adults.

Cheers!
paulie100
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Posted: Wednesday, June 12, 2019 - 04:59 AM UTC
No problems Jerry, credit where credit is due, your figure is a really powerful image and could really fit into any conflict.

I've been sculpting and releasing modern conflict subjects for our own range, unfortunately when researching the likes of Syria/ Iraq there are some very sad photos.

Keep up the good work :-)

Paul
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Posted: Wednesday, June 12, 2019 - 06:07 AM UTC

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Somebody always has to pay the price.
I do not agree however with those that say "war never solved anything".
It solved Nazism. It also solved Slavery. I could go on.
J


Hey, my father was training to be a "spare" second lieutenant for the invasion of Japan when the atomic bomb ended the war, so I have a dog in that fight.

But the problem is that war has become global in its spread and often devastating of civilian populations. There is much debate, for example, whether Arthur "Bomber" Harris's policy of carpet bombing German cities did as much to prolong the war and harden German tenacity as it did to diminish Nazi arms making. Certainly Harris (and other strategic bombing proponents) were totally wrong that bombing alone would end the war without the necessity of a land invasion.

The problem as I see it is that governments overestimate their ability to wage war and underestimate the human cost. Westmoreland in Vietnam was fighting a classic attrition campaign against a foe who was prepared to pay any price in blood. That's when we end up with prolonged conflicts that turn into meat grinders for both soldiers and non-combatants.

In any case, this is a very eloquent statement about the high cost of war, and shows your growing skills as both a modeler and a storyteller.
jrutman
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Posted: Wednesday, June 12, 2019 - 06:30 AM UTC

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J, great vignette. It´s the sad side of war, but true. So sad that children pay for the stupidity of some adults.

Cheers!



Thanks buddy!
J
jrutman
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Posted: Wednesday, June 12, 2019 - 06:34 AM UTC

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No problems Jerry, credit where credit is due, your figure is a really powerful image and could really fit into any conflict.

I've been sculpting and releasing modern conflict subjects for our own range, unfortunately when researching the likes of Syria/ Iraq there are some very sad photos.

Keep up the good work :-)

Paul
www.redzebramodels.co.uk



Believe me,I saw a whole boatload of gruesome stuff along the 6 lane highway in Iraq when we went north in Desert Storm.
You put yourself in a special place to cope with it,unless you are normally a homicidal maniac,then it probably does not affect you.
On a lighter note,I think your company is doing some very fine work. My buddy Lester Plaskit uses that stuff a lot.
Thanks for the comments!
J
jrutman
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Posted: Wednesday, June 12, 2019 - 06:36 AM UTC

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heartbreaking....



Somebody always has to pay the price.
I do not agree however with those that say "war never solved anything".
It solved Nazism. It also solved Slavery. I could go on.
J


Hey, my father was training to be a "spare" second lieutenant for the invasion of Japan when the atomic bomb ended the war, so I have a dog in that fight.

But the problem is that war has become global in its spread and often devastating of civilian populations. There is much debate, for example, whether Arthur "Bomber" Harris's policy of carpet bombing German cities did as much to prolong the war and harden German tenacity as it did to diminish Nazi arms making. Certainly Harris (and other strategic bombing proponents) were totally wrong that bombing alone would end the war without the necessity of a land invasion.

The problem as I see it is that governments overestimate their ability to wage war and underestimate the human cost. Westmoreland in Vietnam was fighting a classic attrition campaign against a foe who was prepared to pay any price in blood. That's when we end up with prolonged conflicts that turn into meat grinders for both soldiers and non-combatants.

In any case, this is a very eloquent statement about the high cost of war, and shows your growing skills as both a modeler and a storyteller.



Yep,all true and well put.
I think we can agree though,that war has always affected the non combatants severely. Look at the slaughter that went on during the 30 years war if a rival army conquered a town or city. They say a good quarter of Europes' population died during that time.
J
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Posted: Wednesday, June 12, 2019 - 06:42 AM UTC
True enough, just read the Iliad and you can see how the Greeks enslaved the Trojan women after they took the city.
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Posted: Thursday, June 13, 2019 - 07:56 AM UTC
Hi Jerry, ge´reat work! You certainly have developped since I last was on Armorama.
Good to see your work again.
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Posted: Friday, June 14, 2019 - 12:13 AM UTC
Kind of haunting in a way. It reminds me of an old photo of a child crying after a Japanese bombing raid in China (I think it was Shanghai IIRC). Very effective and thought provoking, Brother. Well done!
paulie100
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Posted: Friday, June 14, 2019 - 12:22 AM UTC
Thanks Jerry pleased you liked our subjects, re Lester we've known each other years :-)
jrutman
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Posted: Friday, June 14, 2019 - 01:17 AM UTC

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Hi Jerry, ge´reat work! You certainly have developped since I last was on Armorama.
Good to see your work again.



Thanks man,glad to see you back again!
J
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Posted: Friday, June 14, 2019 - 01:19 AM UTC

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Kind of haunting in a way. It reminds me of an old photo of a child crying after a Japanese bombing raid in China (I think it was Shanghai IIRC). Very effective and thought provoking, Brother. Well done!



Thanks Ski!
I remember that pic as well. Those things always reach deep inside. Also pics of suffering animals. Like the one from the Eastern Front showing a dying horse stuck in the mud,looking up in hope when a tank drives by. So so sad,
J
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Posted: Sunday, June 30, 2019 - 02:02 PM UTC
So simple and yet so powerful.
Excellence my friend.

Bravo
Dave