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Armor and ground forces of the Allied forces during World War II.
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Tie down points on M4A3E8 T23 turret?
ubermensche
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Posted: Wednesday, October 16, 2019 - 09:07 AM UTC
I'm currently working on RFM's M4A3E8. The kit itself does not come with any stowage tie-down spots so some DIY will be necessary.

Would anyone be able to provide reference pictures with the exact locations of the small handle-bar type tie-downs? It also seems that some other T23 turrets had a sort of metal bar going around the left and ride sides of the turret that the crews would attach stowage to?

Thanks!
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Posted: Wednesday, October 16, 2019 - 09:43 AM UTC
I may be wrong, but I don't think the T23 turrets came with any footman loops at all "as issued", and any loops or bars seen in pics were added locally by the units that operated the tanks. There is no fixed pattern, so the only way forward is to pick a photo and replicate it!
panamadan
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Posted: Wednesday, October 16, 2019 - 10:18 AM UTC
No tie down points-
http://the.shadock.free.fr/sherman_minutia/turret_types/76mm_turrets.html
Dan
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Posted: Wednesday, October 16, 2019 - 10:23 AM UTC
The Sherman Minutia site is a really good site and great for those that lack good Sherman references.
ubermensche
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Posted: Wednesday, October 16, 2019 - 10:45 AM UTC



I've consulted this site already.
So is something like this a field improv?
ALBOWIE
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Posted: Wednesday, October 16, 2019 - 11:07 AM UTC

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The Sherman Minutia site is a really good site and great for those that lack good Sherman references.



Even for those of us with extensive references

Al
panamadan
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Posted: Wednesday, October 16, 2019 - 03:07 PM UTC

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Yes, quite common.
barkingdigger
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Posted: Wednesday, October 16, 2019 - 09:11 PM UTC

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Yes, quite common.



Same goes for the bracket on the hull holding the spare wheel and fuel can - these were done before the tank was issued to the troops, but not sure at what level. I do like the stuffed toys on the mantlet and turret front lift-ring! (Probably NOT a depot modification...)