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Armor and ground forces of the Axis forces during World War II.
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What do I need to build this?
SpeedyJ
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Posted: Tuesday, October 22, 2019 - 03:33 PM UTC
Hello.
I found this photo and I asked myself: What do I need to build this?
First one I filed under 'Beute'.
I'm intrigued by this photo.

Yeah, it's a Scammel, but which type?
And the trailer, is it only the barrel or a complete artillery piece?

Second one is also a 'must build'
Power!

White Truck, but which type?
And the tank?
What do I need to build this?

Help is needed!

Kind regards,

Robert Jan
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Posted: Tuesday, October 22, 2019 - 05:25 PM UTC
Robert,

The trailer with the barrel on the first picture is a Rohrwagen.
Rohrwagens were designed for split transportation of heavy weight artillery pieces.


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Posted: Tuesday, October 22, 2019 - 05:37 PM UTC
Rohrwagen:
http://www.mako-modellbau.de/product_info.php?language=en&products_id=22735
I don't know if they are still in stock ....

Scammel recovery truck


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Posted: Tuesday, October 22, 2019 - 05:50 PM UTC

Quoted Text

Hello.
I found this photo and I asked myself: What do I need to build this?
First one I filed under 'Beute'.
I'm intrigued by this photo.

Yeah, it's a Scammel, but which type?
And the trailer, is it only the barrel or a complete artillery piece?

Second one is also a 'must build'
Power!








White Truck, but which type?
And the tank?
What do I need to build this?

Help is needed!

Kind regards,

Robert Jan


Tank appears to be an early Crusader Mk 1. Italeri makes one in 1/35th.
RobinNilsson
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Posted: Tuesday, October 22, 2019 - 06:05 PM UTC
I would agree with Geralds answer about the Crusader Mk I but there are some slight differences. The right side armoured visor for the driver looks slightly different than Italeris boxart but it could be that the boxart is unclear ...
Italeri 6432

https://www.super-hobby.se/products/Crusader-Mk.-I.html
On the tank on the truck the front of the visor is pointed (pyramid shaped) but Italeris part is a flat slab


White 920 tank transporter carrying A13 tank


Empty (found by Frenchy)


http://armorama.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=SquawkBox&file=index&req=viewtopic&topic_id=201230&page=1







/ Robin
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Posted: Tuesday, October 22, 2019 - 06:10 PM UTC
Correction from my side.
That is not a Rohrwagen on the first picture, but a French Canon de 155 mm GPF.
I don't know whether someone does it in 1/35th scale...
SpeedyJ
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Posted: Tuesday, October 22, 2019 - 06:17 PM UTC
Thanks so far. I always forget that a lot of British Material was left on the beach. So the Scammell Trucks were in use by the Germans almost throughout the war. And I wish some modeling company comes up with some American Civil Trucks like the White. Also widely used by the Germans as they were captured in France in 1940. Don't think 1/35 scale models are available for this one.
The Rohrwagen is sold-out and way over budget by the way...
Thanks for the help, I'll keep googling my way through the net.

Kind regards,

Robert Jan
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Posted: Tuesday, October 22, 2019 - 06:21 PM UTC

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Correction from my side.
That is not a Rohrwagen on the first picture, but a French Canon de 155 mm GPF.
I don't know whether someone does it in 1/35th scale...



http://deskit.online.fr/02_pages/04_materiels_35/materiels_francais_35/35046/35046.htm

https://www.scalemates.com/kits/des-kit-35046-canon-155mm-gpf-and-limber-1917-1945--944559


I don't think there is a kit of the White 920 though ...
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Posted: Tuesday, October 22, 2019 - 06:45 PM UTC
Tony Shop France offers the gun for 74.90 EUR TTC(with VAT included).
There is also a seller on Evilbay, asking 160 EUR...
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Posted: Tuesday, October 22, 2019 - 07:11 PM UTC

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Tony Shop France offers the gun for 74.90 EUR TTC(with VAT included).
There is also a seller on Evilbay, asking 160 EUR...



Directly from Des Kit is also an option:
http://deskit.online.fr/01_systeme/documents_systeme/tarifs_ttc.pdf
72 Euros ...

Home page: http://deskit.online.fr/01_systeme/pages_systeme/home_page.htm
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SpeedyJ
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Posted: Tuesday, October 22, 2019 - 07:50 PM UTC
Those White Trucks are simply beautiful and elegant.

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Posted: Tuesday, October 22, 2019 - 09:25 PM UTC

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Those White Trucks are simply beautiful and elegant.





H.P.
SpeedyJ
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Posted: Tuesday, October 22, 2019 - 09:46 PM UTC
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Posted: Wednesday, October 23, 2019 - 09:35 AM UTC
Hi Robert
It is definitely a Crusader Mk 1. They did have the pyramid type driver's revolver port. Italeri's is a mish mash of various types and the v type is typical of later ones.

There is a photo on page 11 of the Osprey New Vanguard book on the Crusader showing the pyramid type.