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Field modified Panzer IV, flak verling
Tanksami
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Victoria, Australia
Joined: August 06, 2011
KitMaker: 1,284 posts
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Posted: Monday, October 28, 2019 - 02:39 PM UTC
Hi All,

I found & then lost some pictures of panzer IVís with field modifications with flak verlings, I am hoping to find the one I lost, which had a flak verling mounted down in the empty turret well.

Any help would be greatly appreciated!!!
Thanks
Mike
Grauwolf
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Quebec, Canada
Joined: September 14, 2005
KitMaker: 2,307 posts
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Posted: Monday, October 28, 2019 - 04:51 PM UTC
Hi Mike,

The vierling cannot physically be recessed inside the turret well, its just too big.

Maybe you are thinking of this Wirbelwind without its shields.

https://i.imgur.com/WpByKzC.png

or

Dragon's Panther D with the vierling which is only slightly
recessed.

http://www.dragon-models.com/d-m-item.asp?pid=CHC6626

I believe there is also a model of the T34 with a vierling
but the gun also sits on top of the hull.

I have never seen a photo of the actual Panther D or the T34 in that configuration.

There is a photo of a Stuart with a flak mounted on it.

https://i.redd.it/72e48buj22r01.jpg

Dragon also makes a Hetzer with a single 2cm, now that is inside the hull
as the top is completely removed.

Photos of real vehicle and model:

http://www.materielsterrestres39-45.fr/fr/index.php/chars-de-l-axe-allemagne/227-les-bricolages/1164-bergepanzer-38-t-hetzer-mit-2cm-flak-38


Cheers.
Tanksami
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Victoria, Australia
Joined: August 06, 2011
KitMaker: 1,284 posts
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Posted: Monday, October 28, 2019 - 08:21 PM UTC
Hi Joe,

Thanks for the reply & the link!! It is the Wirbelwind without the shields, I had just never seen a turretless one with gun mounted & assumed it was a field modification.

Cheers
Mike